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calyxa: hi, infidel
00.54.33 infidel: hey caly
00.55.02 infidel: anything on the agenda to talk about tonight?
calyxa: whatever Mo wants to talk about... probably a post-BryceCamp debriefing...
calyxa: brb, gotta get some water...
00.55.36 infidel: cool..
00.55.42 infidel: alright
calyxa: cold as ice..
00.58.32 infidel: OT: i'm trying to build a van de graaf generator, and for some reason i'm finding it difficult to find short lengths of PVC pipe.. of all the things i need
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calyxa: doesn't that stuff cut pretty easy?
calyxa: hola mola!
00.59.01 docmojo: Yo!
00.59.07 infidel: yeah, i just don't have any use for a 12 foot piece!
00.59.08 infidel: hey doc
00.59.15 docmojo: hey, eric!
00.59.28 docmojo: what color would you like to be?
calyxa: Bernard says 'hi'
00.59.47 infidel: can i be infrared?
00.59.53 docmojo: how about turquoise?
00.59.56 docmojo: h ha no!
01.00.05 docmojo: tell hacker hey for me!
calyxa: heh
calyxa: he was here a few hours ago... as was Clay.
calyxa: Clay plans on being back, I'm about to mail him a note.
01.00.28 docmojo: where's clay now?
01.00.35 docmojo: hacker has an excuse...
01.00.51 infidel: no hockey games to distract tonight
01.00.52 docmojo: he might be back, too (hacker)
01.01.02 docmojo: ha ha--are you Canadian?
calyxa: no, he said he was going to bed.
01.01.14 docmojo: (wimp)
01.01.20 docmojo: ;-
01.01.22 infidel: yeah, Leafs fan..
01.01.25 docmojo: ;-)
01.01.31 docmojo: excellent!
01.01.42 docmojo: I loved hockey when I was in upstate ny...
calyxa: well, foo. the email addy Clay gave me bounces.
01.01.58 infidel: i've been interested ever since the olympics ;)
01.02.09 docmojo: I used to throw metallic sodium out on the ice at our college games.
calyxa: I lost interest when the Sharks lost...
01.02.15 infidel: haha
01.02.33 docmojo: it sits there for quite a while befiore it does anything.
01.02.43 docmojo: then a small flame, then BANG!
calyxa: hee hee
01.02.58 infidel: somewhat OT: I'm going to the University of Toronto next year, major will either be Math or Comp Sci.. hard to decide..
01.03.20 docmojo: no one associates you with the bang, 'cause you tossed your "piece of gum" out so long ago...
01.03.35 docmojo: used to be a great place for graphics!
01.03.41 infidel: if i had been more ambitious, i should have written SATs, Cornell isn't that far away
01.03.42 docmojo: may still be...
01.03.53 docmojo: the Dynamic Graphics Group
01.04.15 infidel: i'm interested in Graphics a lot, but there seems to be a lot of competition... i'm thinking about going into AI
01.04.16 docmojo: Cornell is great, but Greenberg is a bit of a tyrant...
01.04.27 infidel: www.ratemyprofessors.com
01.04.35 docmojo: graphics has better pictures.
01.04.42 docmojo: ;-)
calyxa: better pix than AI?
01.05.02 docmojo: are you going to undergrad or grad school>?
01.05.08 docmojo: yep
01.05.12 infidel: AI looks like it has a more open future...
01.05.21 infidel: undergrad, i'm young!
01.05.27 docmojo: it hasn't gone anywhere in the last 20 years, really...
01.05.37 docmojo: glad to hear that!
calyxa: Mo, do you have Clay's email? the one he gave me earlier bounced.
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calyxa: never mind.
01.05.53 docmojo: it's great seeing young people tackle as difficult an app as MojoWorld
calyxa: hey, Clay, that email addy you gave me bounced...
01.06.01 docmojo: Hey, Clay!
01.06.06 Clay: Alloooooo!!
01.06.11 docmojo: Got yer chaps pn?
01.06.17 docmojo: on?
01.06.22 Clay: Caly: clayh@mchsi.com
01.06.37 Clay: Why yes I do have my chaps on Daddy:-0
calyxa: ah, I got the s and the c backwards..
01.06.54 docmojo: I'll make you PINK then
01.07.09 docmojo: you guys know about the colors in Vox?
01.07.38 docmojo: select a user name in the upper left, then use the color dot to color their blatherings.
01.07.41 docmojo: very handy!
01.08.04 infidel: killer..
01.08.24 docmojo: eric, best do some research on AI before you go into it.
01.08.34 infidel: i will
01.08.42 docmojo: it really has gone nowhere in my entire career, while graphics has blossomed!
01.08.50 infidel: first year, its basically the same courses for Math and Comp Sci, so i have a year to decide
01.08.58 docmojo: i mean, *really* blossomed...
01.09.11 infidel: I might just stick with pure math if i still like it
01.09.12 docmojo: My advice: change your major often.
01.09.20 docmojo: I did, and never regretted it.
01.09.30 docmojo: specialize in grad school.
01.09.31 infidel: it looks like graphics is on its way to completeness... radiosity in real time may not be that far away
01.09.45 docmojo: it'll never be good enough
01.09.48 docmojo: always more to do
01.09.58 infidel: i get lots of conflicting advice about broad vs narrow breadth
01.10.01 docmojo: we need MojoWorld in real time, with lots more stuff in it
calyxa: bits are still warm on this one - http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/redrockstest.jpg
01.10.21 docmojo: I say: be broad in your undergrad years
01.10.28 docmojo: particlularly the first two-three
01.10.39 docmojo: you can never be broad again
01.10.46 infidel: alright..
01.10.49 docmojo: (unless you're a braod)
01.10.52 docmojo: (har har)
calyxa: or get that middle-age spread, eh?
01.11.19 docmojo: har har
01.11.26 docmojo: is that Jonathan's request
01.11.28 docmojo: ?
calyxa: yeah, kinda sorta.
01.11.37 infidel: there's a survey Cognitive Science course that is highly recommended by everyone, so i think i'll take that and see how much i like it.. problem with AI for me is that psychology/linguistics are kind of boring
01.11.40 docmojo: done how?
calyxa: it's two materials on a max...
calyxa: pro ui blend thing...
01.11.53 infidel: caly: i've done this before, but i had trouble with displacements
01.11.54 docmojo: cool
calyxa: I came up with the trick a while back and then forgot it... took me hours of pulling my hair out to remember what I'd done...
01.12.15 docmojo: eric, I ended up majoring in "science" in my first 4 years
01.12.20 docmojo: UCSC encouraged that...
01.12.32 infidel: reminds of something i would like to request, if possible: an option to tell the renderer when it computes material placement: before or after displacement is computed
01.12.42 docmojo: it was *very* enlightening, and perfect preparation for my future
calyxa: there's an 'undisplaced position' node in the Pro UI for that.
01.12.51 docmojo: that was after two years as an art major...
01.13.04 docmojo: ah, I see!
01.13.05 infidel: hmm.. i'll see what happens..
01.13.30 infidel: caly: nice, never noticed that
01.13.31 docmojo: keep rethinking it for at *leat* your first two years
01.13.38 docmojo: that's my advice
01.13.44 infidel: my art teacher says i'm making a mistake not taking art!
01.13.47 docmojo: *least*
01.14.08 docmojo: on the other hand, you can't really be taught art...
calyxa: you'll do far more amazing art in the computer graphics world if you can program the machine to do what _you_ want...
01.14.31 docmojo: you can only be taught techniue and given the chance to practice practice practice
01.15.00 docmojo: whassup, clay?
01.15.04 docmojo: why so quiet?
01.15.13 docmojo: enjoying MojoWorld?
01.15.17 infidel: i agree, for the most part.. but "Drawing on the right side of the brain" makes a strong point to the contrary
01.15.17 docmojo: nice first image, dude!
01.15.27 docmojo: never read it...
01.15.31 infidel: (sorry we're so OT)
01.15.39 docmojo: not OT at all!
01.16.00 infidel: it's left brain/right brain stuff, basically unlocking the right side for the right purposes
01.16.19 docmojo: doing MojoWorld type work ,you have to use both
calyxa: "advanced hand-eye coordination"
01.16.22 docmojo: interesting...
01.16.30 docmojo: yeah
01.16.52 docmojo: you guys wouldn't BELIEVE the landscapes we saw!
01.17.05 docmojo: (caly, you might, having been there recently...)
01.17.24 infidel: *real* landscapes? hehe
01.17.28 docmojo: we found this out-of-the-way canyon that was AMAZING!
calyxa: yeah... it's been about 9 months...
01.17.37 docmojo: yes, mostly in S. Utah
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01.17.51 docmojo: Totally MoJo
calyxa: looks like Clay has connectivity issues...
01.18.08 docmojo: hmm...
01.18.18 docmojo: he nad I had mondo fun at BC!
calyxa: that's what he said earlier...wish I coulda been there...
calyxa: "next time for sure"
01.18.50 infidel: i'm surprised no one has done that one canyon with all the lines.. sorry i forget the name..
01.20.43 infidel: "the wave" i guess its called
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01.21.45 infidel: hello/
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01.21.58 infidel: wb
01.21.58 docmojo: Yo!
calyxa: heh, bouncin around...
01.22.04 docmojo: thx
01.22.23 docmojo: can you clear the server of a user with a kick command?
01.22.37 docmojo: I can't log back in til it clears...
calyxa: I dunno...
01.22.55 docmojo: what's clay's email again?
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calyxa: clay@mchsi.com
01.23.15 docmojo: thx
01.24.20 docmojo: I invited him back
calyxa: just in case he doesn't know that he left?
01.24.53 infidel: this should be possible in MW for sure:
01.24.55 infidel: http://www.ancientimagescards.com/gallery_pages/gallery_images/Wave1.frame.jpg
01.24.58 docmojo: or tried to log back in nad couldn't...
01.25.16 docmojo: YEAH!
01.25.29 docmojo: that's the kind of stuff that's ALL OVER there...
calyxa: I only just now got your mail
01.25.45 docmojo: hmmm
01.26.09 docmojo: geologically, that's called "cross bedding"
01.26.23 docmojo: each layer was deposited as sand dunes
01.26.37 docmojo: the cross beds are teh slopes of the dune faces
01.26.39 infidel: up here in Ontario I'm stuck to pine trees and the Canadian Shield
01.26.49 docmojo: learned that in my scattered undergrad education...
01.27.03 docmojo: old, old rocks those...
01.27.12 infidel: another thing i'm surprised i haven't seen in MW is a realistic Sahara desert scene.. the dunes can be done perfectly with curves.. i tried it
01.27.19 docmojo: any interesting formations?
01.27.34 docmojo: cooll-I'd like to see that!
01.28.06 docmojo: I'm working on Monument Valley style mesas...
01.28.15 infidel: nice, can't wait to see them
01.28.21 docmojo: like yours, but w/o the dem!
01.28.33 docmojo: I showed yours to teh geologists at BC
01.28.40 infidel: what did they think?
01.28.42 docmojo: they were impressed
01.28.55 docmojo: thye're brycers... ;-)
01.29.54 infidel: i REALLY want to do a Bryce Canyonish landscape, but i find it hard to have tall spires with displacement rocks, and not have artifacts galore..
01.30.17 docmojo: jba worked that our pretty well...
01.30.23 docmojo: maybe he can help
01.30.33 docmojo: bryce hoodoos should be doable!
01.31.18 infidel: hmm i'll investigate
01.31.35 docmojo: did you see his "feather trees"?
01.31.38 docmojo: extreme!
01.32.03 infidel: yeah, those are killer
01.32.16 infidel: btw the new river plugin looks great, i was messing around with it the other day
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calyxa: I think he'll have a real surprise for us if I can work out his request..
01.32.26 docmojo: glad you like it!
calyxa: heya faders
01.32.32 docmojo: hey, faders!
01.32.35 infidel: hey faders
01.32.40 pushinfaders: Howdy...
01.33.23 pushinfaders: what's new 2 nite??
01.33.58 docmojo: talking' sandstone and limestone
01.34.12 docmojo: ala Bryce, Zion and Grand Canyon...
01.34.55 pushinfaders: being inspired by nature?
01.35.07 infidel: when do we see this in MW? http://www.photo.net/photo/pcd1661/arch-classic-59.tcl
01.35.14 docmojo: just got back from a tour of that area, post BC
calyxa: got a test render - http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/redtrockstest.jpg
01.36.00 docmojo: I've been thinking about that...
01.36.12 docmojo: that url don'e work for me, caly...
01.36.31 pushinfaders: me either
calyxa: foo..
01.36.49 docmojo: tortured torus?
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01.36.51 docmojo: ;-)
calyxa: probably get rid of that first 's'...
calyxa: w/b Clay
01.36.57 docmojo: hey, clay!
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01.37.06 pushinfaders: Hello Clay
01.37.07 Clay: Rickkin frakkin Cable GRRRR
01.37.16 Clay: Howdy Push
01.37.40 Clay: I have a newbie question...
calyxa: http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/redrockstest.jpg
01.37.52 docmojo: everyone is droppin!
calyxa: it was the stray 't'... go for it, Clay
01.38.02 docmojo: fire at will, pf!
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calyxa: w/b eric
01.38.29 docmojo: rather, clay!
01.38.33 infidel: thx..
01.38.36 docmojo: ask away!
01.38.45 Clay: After I save a Mojo file, when I double click it to open it back up it resets itself to default, I have to open mojoworld then go to open file to bring it in.
01.38.55 docmojo: Clay?
01.39.00 Clay: yessum?
01.39.05 docmojo: That is, "Caly?"
01.39.17 docmojo: (Caly's our expert)
calyxa: it's a familiar sounding old bug... you're not on a mac are you?
01.39.27 Clay: ahhhssso