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01.02.14 docmojo: yo
calyxa: hey...
01.02.29 docmojo: tried animating recently?
calyxa: yeah, my moss didn't move like I thought it was going to, tho
01.02.46 docmojo: the time node--and spactime--seem to be doing nothing.
calyxa: my shadows moved...?
01.03.08 docmojo: did you move the light?
calyxa: yes - but the sky didn't change color
calyxa: I thought maybe I hadn't moved it far enough and wrote it off...
01.04.03 docmojo: i been beatin at it and no joy...
01.04.15 docmojo: on two diff machines...
calyxa: hmm.
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01.04.34 docmojo: pity. I have a cool animation nigh done...
calyxa: hi, Linda!
01.04.41 docmojo: hey, linda!
01.04.48 fractalinda: Hey Caly and Doc!
01.04.58 docmojo: how are ya?
calyxa: patrice(?) did that waves anim recently
01.05.04 fractalinda: Are we the only ones on board?
01.05.11 docmojo: so far, yes...
calyxa: yup... these things always start slow
01.05.17 fractalinda: Hi patrice!
01.05.29 docmojo: (not here yet)
01.05.41 fractalinda: What are we here for?
calyxa: the heck of it
calyxa: to ask and answer...
01.05.52 fractalinda: Great!
01.05.52 docmojo: i got to patrice's page and couldn't see which one was an animation...
01.06.04 docmojo: fire questions at us!
01.06.11 fractalinda: Yeah..I tried too..couldn't find it.
calyxa: it was in the bottom row, third from the left, I think... it's a confusing page.
01.06.34 docmojo: i was telling caly that the time node seems to be broken
01.06.49 docmojo: no animating textures...
01.06.49 fractalinda: Okay..When I'm working with materials, what's the significance of slope weight
calyxa: I can u/l my most recent anim, it's 2 megs tho
calyxa: slope weight - I'd have to cut-n-paste Craig's description and that's on the other machine...
calyxa: it's related to altitude...
01.07.26 docmojo: i've never used it, linda
01.07.26 fractalinda: maybe you could email the info?
calyxa: something like "things above the altitude of the slope weight are shaded as if they're at sea level" ... I'll post it to 3dC
01.07.54 fractalinda: Well, if you've not used it, maybe it's not too significant:?
01.08.19 fractalinda: Okie-dokie..thanks!
01.08.25 docmojo: there are many things like that in mojoworld!
calyxa: hey, Mo, did you look at my lathe thing?
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01.09.00 fractalinda: I'm having fun working with slope and displacement, but- so far, haven't been able to realize those big rocks!
calyxa: heya, PF!
01.09.11 pushinfaders: Hey Yo
01.09.14 docmojo: hey, pf!
01.09.18 fractalinda: Hi Bruce!
01.09.26 docmojo: no, i haven't
calyxa: use a large smallest feature size to keep the detail out of them (at least I _think_ that's what's going on, I haven't looked...)
01.09.30 docmojo: where is it?
calyxa: http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/lathefu.jpg is the latest render test
01.09.58 docmojo: what color would you like to be here on my vox, pf?
01.10.06 fractalinda: Aha! Thanks
01.10.08 pushinfaders: Uh, I dunno
calyxa: blue! no, green! AAAAHAHAHAAAHHH!
01.10.33 docmojo: i've made you fuschia ;-)
01.10.38 pushinfaders: A gradient would be goog
01.10.45 docmojo: know about colors in vox?
calyxa: feature request time!
01.10.50 pushinfaders: Uh fuscia
01.10.51 docmojo: indeed!
01.11.03 pushinfaders: Yeah I know about it
01.11.04 docmojo: purple is my favorite color
01.11.22 fractalinda: chocolate is mine. ;)
01.11.26 docmojo: i take a lot of flak when i wear my purple shirts,
01.11.34 docmojo: but I DON'T CARE
01.11.38 fractalinda: so we've heard..
01.11.38 docmojo: ;-)
calyxa: heh, I'm eating some chocolate right now... 70% cocoa solids, mainline time...
01.11.50 fractalinda: GOOD for you!
01.11.54 docmojo: i've noticed you like chocolate!
01.12.03 docmojo: hard core
01.12.18 fractalinda: Yum! had some at 3 to give me a lift.
01.12.23 pushinfaders: did you get the rain earlier Doc?
01.12.38 docmojo: as you've perhaps notived, i like getting people's goats. >;^)
01.12.42 docmojo: yeah--lots of it!
01.12.47 fractalinda: Nah! ;)
01.12.48 pushinfaders: It'
calyxa: raining goats, was it?
01.12.54 docmojo: YEAH
01.12.57 docmojo: COOL
01.12.58 pushinfaders: It'll be here soon
01.13.05 fractalinda: tee-hee
01.13.09 docmojo: where are you again?
01.13.16 pushinfaders: Va bch
01.13.29 docmojo: must be movin' slow
01.13.30 pushinfaders: almost neighbors
01.13.34 fractalinda: Well, it's balmy here in San Diego..
01.13.38 docmojo: rained all day here
01.13.51 fractalinda: We need some here
01.13.55 docmojo: we gotta come visit you--never been to the beach in my 8 years here!
calyxa: quite pleasant here in Sunnyvale, tho a bit cooler than yesterday
01.14.13 docmojo: ain' that always the case in SD?
01.14.20 fractalinda: Hey, Caly..my bro lives in Mill Valley..
01.14.21 docmojo: love that desert climate!
01.14.30 pushinfaders: I'll let ya know when I'm up that way, I've got a few gigs near ya this summer
01.14.46 docmojo: we're looking for a place in the applachians
calyxa: up in Marin... I lived in Fairfax for a little while
01.14.55 fractalinda: Nah..everyone sez so..but we have are share of gloomy days..though it stays pretty temperate
01.14.57 docmojo: git me a rockin chair an shotgun
01.15.06 docmojo: corn whiskey and a fishin pole
01.15.09 pushinfaders: Hillbilly Doc
01.15.16 fractalinda: Ooh, the appalachians are beautiful!
calyxa: fish whiskey and a corn pole
01.15.22 pushinfaders: Yee Haw
01.15.23 docmojo: "Hillbilly Software"
01.15.30 docmojo: inbred
01.15.42 docmojo: yuck, caly!
01.15.50 fractalinda: Can't fight city hall, eh?!
01.15.53 pushinfaders: Are ya getting a lot of takers on the Gen demo?
01.15.54 docmojo: they are SPLENDID
calyxa: several hundred a day
01.16.15 docmojo: and you can get prperty for hundreds of dollars an acre
01.16.16 pushinfaders: That's good
01.16.20 docmojo: try THAT in coastal CA!
01.16.44 docmojo: too many people here
01.16.49 docmojo: my rockets annoy them
01.16.50 fractalinda: Ah well, some things have to be forgone ..
01.16.53 docmojo: ;^)
01.17.01 docmojo: NOT MY ROCKETS!
01.17.22 fractalinda: all above my head, it is. ;)
01.17.23 docmojo: pf, we are gettign good response to the GD
01.17.32 docmojo: we hope it'll translate to sales!
01.17.36 docmojo: ha ha!
01.17.39 pushinfaders: That's good
01.17.46 docmojo: that's the idea, after all...
01.17.58 pushinfaders: Ya need sale so ya can give caly a raise !! :-)
01.18.10 docmojo: indeed!
01.18.13 docmojo: me, too!
01.18.16 fractalinda: gotta go guys..see ya on the flip side
01.18.19 docmojo: everyone!
01.18.24 docmojo: Bye!
01.18.25 pushinfaders: Later on Linda
calyxa: have a good afternoon, Linda
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01.18.48 pushinfaders: So here we are, the good the bad and the ugly
01.18.54 docmojo: she sure has a unique look--love it!
01.18.55 pushinfaders: he he he
calyxa: I won't ask which one I am
01.19.08 pushinfaders: your the good
01.19.09 docmojo: i the Bad or the Ugly?
calyxa: "yes"
01.19.16 pushinfaders: take your pic
01.19.20 docmojo: that makes me the Ugly
01.19.22 pushinfaders: :-)
01.19.31 pushinfaders: As bas as I wanna be
01.19.44 docmojo: i never admit it
01.19.52 docmojo: little angle, you know? ;-)
calyxa: acute
01.20.01 docmojo: that's "angel"
01.20.07 docmojo: obtuse
calyxa: obstinate
01.20.13 docmojo: big moose
01.20.16 pushinfaders: I checked the fly by thing ya posted Mo, cool stuff
calyxa: oh yeah!
01.20.23 docmojo: petulant
01.20.34 docmojo: it's actually pretty realistic
01.20.38 docmojo: odd effect, eh?
calyxa: wish I knew why the ghost mat isn't working on imports...
01.21.03 docmojo: that's quite odd.
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calyxa: hi, Patrice!
01.21.18 docmojo: i suppose you could check the normals...
01.21.22 docmojo: hey pat!
calyxa: I tried flipping them and it made no difference
01.21.42 docmojo: i mena debug mode
01.21.50 docmojo: ugly programming stuff ;-)
calyxa: I don't have a debug build
01.22.00 docmojo: "lucky you"
01.22.03 paf75fr: hi eveybody, I hezitated since a few hours to click on this channel what a idea ! it s the good way ! ):-
calyxa: and even if I did, I'm not sure I'd know what to do w/ it...
calyxa: you missed Linda, though
01.22.26 docmojo: what tiem is it there?
01.23.02 docmojo: patrice, did you use the time node and get a sucesful animation with 1.2?
01.23.10 docmojo: it's busted for me here
01.23.17 docmojo: doesn't seem to do anything...
01.23.52 docmojo: we're getting a fair number of hits from Isreal now
calyxa: I u/l my moss movie that I made a couple days ago.. didn't come out like I expected, but there is motion
01.24.00 docmojo: they should mojo, not kick ass
01.24.17 pushinfaders: Cool
01.24.17 docmojo: fised camera?
calyxa: http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/moss.mov - 2 megs.
01.24.25 docmojo: "Fixed"
calyxa: yes, fixed camera
01.24.42 paf75fr: of course don t you see my 'merci' ? check this on the section ' last work ' it called "la isla bonita ' with very small waves to try but it works properly !
calyxa: I saw it, it was nice
01.25.11 docmojo: that other url of yours is COOL, caly!
calyxa: the lathe thing?
01.25.24 docmojo: yeah
calyxa: I was so happy to have that finally render close to right...
01.25.28 paf75fr: url www.paf75fr.com as usual take care of cable xdsl only ! doc '
01.25.39 docmojo: i couldn't figure out which one it was, patrice
calyxa: look for the name, la isla bonita - that's how I found it.
01.26.35 pushinfaders: I need a laptop so i can work on stuff on the road
01.26.38 docmojo: your cloud shadows are flyin' along, caly
01.26.52 docmojo: it's great having one
calyxa: yeah, but the sky isn't changing color... and the moss isn't moving...
01.27.00 docmojo: i have a 1 ghz p3
01.27.09 pushinfaders: Cool
calyxa: here's an earlier version of the lathe render that didn't work - http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/hahanotquite.jpg
01.29.08 pushinfaders: What does using a fractal for sky color do? I'm not getting that
01.29.09 docmojo: your animated water is great, patrice!
01.29.19 paf75fr: what is the technique used to do that Caltxa ? Did you add displacements on clouds ... nice idea to add these shadows on mountains!
calyxa: the clouds have an offset and that offset itself is offset...
01.30.16 docmojo: pf, you mean on the sky background?
01.30.21 pushinfaders: yeah
calyxa: sky color - in the backdrop? that's where you'd make stars or any other outer-space type effect
01.30.28 docmojo: it can give you clouds at infinity,
01.30.32 docmojo: or nebuale
01.30.50 pushinfaders: oh ok
01.31.25 docmojo: that's a funnrender, caly
01.31.35 docmojo: funny render
calyxa: the only thing moving in that anim of mine was the sun - but the moss on the hill was supposed to move because it is blended with the stone using one of my new plugins, the sun direction...
01.31.49 paf75fr: You know colleagues, it s the work of mojo generator I just put parameters, the more important work has been done by developers doc' , the spacetime identitie is quite magic !
calyxa: indeed!
01.32.25 docmojo: yeah, i do think it's pretty neat taht everything is in 4D under the hood
calyxa: here's another failed lathe render (I kept uploading these to give Craig a laugh) - believe it or not, I considered this one closer to being right than the last one - http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/stillnotright.jpg
01.32.45 docmojo: but I CAN'T GET IT TO WORK TODAY
01.33.13 docmojo: failed renders can be fun... love that one!
01.33.35 pushinfaders: Oh I created a huge mess today!!
01.33.44 paf75fr: good idea caly to move the sun hihihi I really do not thinking about this basic , nice move ! Question : Is the 'clock who appears onto channel chat is the current time for you ? here : 03h28 am nobody on street cool to work !
calyxa: it's supposed to be UTC, it calculates it based on your current system time and time zone.
01.34.30 docmojo: what manner of mess, pf?
calyxa: of course, I have my system set to NZ time, so when I post these logs to my web page, the times don't make a whole lot of sense...
01.35.33 pushinfaders: Just experimenting, lwith some voronoi basis stuff, made cool rocks, but it went nuts when ya got close
calyxa: that'll be true of any displacement - a general rule is that your displacement should be no more than about half the distance of the camera to the surface.
01.36.31 pushinfaders: it looked cool froma distance
01.36.33 docmojo: yep. nothin to be donne about that, that we can figure out
calyxa: if I can figure out a camera altitude node.... then displacements can be driven w/ a function so that they shrink accordingly.
01.37.06 pushinfaders: no, biggie, thats' why ya experiment
01.37.08 docmojo: i'm slpping up what i hoped to animate today...
01.37.43 docmojo: mojoworld is a great place to experiment!
calyxa: it'll be cool when a lot of folks are doing SDK stuff
01.38.41 pushinfaders: I'd like to see some atmospheric plugins
01.39.16 paf75fr: Is anybody see the software for family call Eingana ? so strange it comes from geo and looking for a entire planet area with animals and trees... who worked on this product ? it s a liitle mojo transporter
01.40.05 pushinfaders: never heard of it
01.40.14 docmojo: no, what's teh url?
calyxa: here's their English page http://www.emg.fr/scaper/eingana/Eingana_2002/gb/index.htm
01.40.40 docmojo: here's what i've been working on. wanted to animate teh waves and texture, but no go today...
01.40.41 docmojo: http://www.kenmusgrave.com/MojoWorld/PsychoWaves.01.jpg
01.40.54 paf75fr: maybe only a 'game' for europe, please awaiting a few minutes I'm checking the content of the box thanks 2 u
calyxa: cool, Mo... maybe send me the .mjw and I can sanity-check your nodes?
01.41.52 pushinfaders: There's a comercial on Tv for claritin (I think) that looks a lot like a MJW flyby
01.42.10 docmojo: sure. thanks, caly
01.42.29 docmojo: it would look better if done in MW
01.42.34 docmojo: >;^)
01.43.02 pushinfaders: (slight bias on Mo's part)
01.43.13 docmojo: heh heh
01.43.15 paf75fr: Gold question : is doc' mojo works for himself ? hihihi ):- ps find url : www.eingana.com