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01.34.55 Rat: hi ya Caly :]
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calyxa: hiya
calyxa: got it working on your windows box?
01.35.30 Rat: thanks for the tip that i could load MJVox on my pc :)
01.35.42 Rat: yuppers
calyxa: sorry that the 'readme' got left out of all the current versions... sigh.
01.37.09 Rat: no worry, excellent tech support made up for it :)
calyxa: heh. I blame myself for that file being left out, tho... I should have caught that before things went gold master.
01.37.53 Rat: I was suprised that my first choice in nicknames was taken already tho
calyxa: darat?
calyxa: I'll bet you're there as a beta tester or something like that
calyxa: "I can fix that for you" :)
01.38.41 Rat: I think that 'Vox and OS X will have to be addressed tho, Mac users are going to feel left out here soon :\
01.39.02 Rat: lol I was a beta tester
calyxa: the nick it said was taken, it was 'darat', right?
01.39.40 Rat: yup, when I reg'd up
calyxa: send me an email w/ what you want me to set that passwd to and I'll change it so you can use that nick.
01.40.21 Rat: okies, hold on ...
01.41.20 Rat: sent :)
calyxa: ok, thanks. unless it's urgent, I probably won't get to it 'til tomorrow, tho.
01.41.57 Rat: I am starting to play around with MJW here, but I think I will read the book cover to cover first
01.42.13 Rat: oh, I was going to say, no hurry on the nick change :)
calyxa: I _really really_ need to get my tutorial suite together...
01.42.31 Rat: thanks :)
01.42.42 Rat: have you got a lot of tut's?
calyxa: I have a few pieces and ideas about what needs to be covered... but it's slow going and my focus keeps shifting around.
01.42.56 Rat: well i have an opinion
calyxa: a dozen or so hooked up, another half dozen more lurking...
calyxa: let's hear it, man!
01.43.42 Rat: lol, ok someone should do a Bryce to Mojoworld UI matrix
calyxa: my first impulse is, "impossible".....
01.44.14 Rat: so...someone looking for lets say camera controls, will be pointed to navigation etc
calyxa: they're two different paradigms...
01.44.38 Rat: not so, I am talking "general" i realize there are diffecrences
calyxa: can't move the camera in Bryce w/ keyboard, can't move the camera in MW by 'dragging it as an object'...
01.45.27 Rat: understood, but I am just realizing that "land texture" and "land material" are two different critters
calyxa: like a terrain object versus the material applied to it....
01.46.42 Rat: yes, stuff like that, not a "who is best", but a quick start guide for Bryce users, like Mircosoft has done for Wordperfect users who swap to MS Word
calyxa: I suppose I can try to think about a single 'bryce concepts -> Mojo concepts" sort of idea....
calyxa: ok. I can see a few places to take that. thanks!
01.47.20 Rat: or any other Mojo Gods, I know you have a lot to do on your own also :)
calyxa: in some of my bryce tutorials, I emphasize the difference between a material and a texture - which is even more important in MW...
01.48.20 Rat: heck I expect to be lost, I use Poser, Bryce, Truespace, sPatch, and have owned Strata, now MJW...swapping around gets a bit harry
01.49.18 Rat: It looks to me that "texture" is the heightfield in MJW, ie Terrain Editor (I think I got that right?)
calyxa: for the planet, yes. but note that a material applied to the planet will have its various parameters (diffuse color, displacement, etc.) driven _by textures_.
01.50.23 Rat: *nod* I saw that, looks like fun
01.50.44 Rat: thats why i am reading the manual first
calyxa: the manual has its strengths and weaknesses.... sigh.
01.51.33 Rat: MJW looks to me much more powerful than I dreamed
calyxa: yup! that's for sure!!
01.52.05 Rat: lol, don't they all? How about Bryce 5 manual, and tree lab? Basically non-existant
calyxa: I've barely scratched B5. have had it installed on my machine for a long time now and I've barely touched it...
01.53.13 Rat: I have been doing a fair amount in it, not bad at all
01.53.44 Rat: Once I found Jonathan Allen's mats for sale, I was in heaven :)
calyxa: I pulled my ancient powerbook out of mothballs and have been running B1 on it for grins... hehe.
01.53.58 Rat: ouch!
calyxa: B1 had a lot of charm.
calyxa: I remember _hating_ B2 with a passion for about a month. I finally gave in because of booleans.
01.54.45 Rat: btw the new pbooks have been known to get so hot in an hour they can melt a plastic table top
calyxa: but for that first month, it was like, "wah! they broke it!"
01.54.56 Rat: LOL
calyxa: I'm talking 1400 here. it's still got OS 7.mumble on it.
01.56.10 Rat: I tell ya, I been looking for a cheap digital laptop to use with my digiital camera, like a Wallstreet, but the darn things are still expensive!
01.56.33 Rat: I could buy an ibook for not much more :\
calyxa: I'm hoping Mo will throw a new cheap powerful athlon my way... all my machines are over 2 years old.
01.57.46 Rat: u run a cube right?
calyxa: ya
calyxa: and this Dell POS
01.58.13 Rat: me too, a bit tweaked
01.58.33 Rat: Gateway 2 ghz here
calyxa: the cube had a flaky CPU in it when I first got it...
calyxa: the Dell's only 866. ugh.
01.59.01 Rat: that bites! u know the 800mhz upgrade is down to 299$
01.59.28 Rat: www.cubeowner.com buy/swap/sell and faq and tips
calyxa: my other half keeps track of that hardware stuff... I know he's been watching it.
02.00.16 Rat: good site for Cube owners, good benchmarks and upgrade stories there
02.01.18 Rat: heck a Cube case, in mint condition with chassis, no logic board, cpu, ram etc went for 500$ on eBay last year! 40 bidders!
02.01.38 Rat: good resale on the Cube
calyxa: huh. and I don't even have any cracks in mine ;)
02.02.05 Rat: not cracks, injection mold lines :P
calyxa: I wouldn't want to give it up, tho... I like having a mac as my main machine for email and crap like that... laugh at virii...
calyxa: and since I've got unix in my background, being able to hand-code my HTML in vi is heaven.
02.03.20 Rat: I find using my mac for several tasks, not as easy as a windows box :\ Maybe I am not use to using it for more than Bryce and Painter etc, just one thing at a time :]
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02.03.41 Rat: Elvis! vi!! ewwwww!!!
calyxa: yo, Ken
02.03.58 artistken: hello there all!
02.04.03 Rat: Caly "wysiwyg" rules :P
02.04.15 Rat: hi Ken :)
02.04.24 artistken: Howdy Rat
02.05.08 Rat: hmmm, what irc server are ya'll running?
calyxa: something hacked up custom, I'm pretty sure... got a specific question?
02.06.11 Rat: naw, I use to run a server and was a ircop, just wondering if it was a custom job ::]
calyxa: there's a bunch of stuff it's supposed to do that I've never gotten to work correctly and I don't know if that's because I'm doing it wrong or if it just is buggy.
calyxa: like can I whisper to someone in another channel even tho I'm not in that channel, and if so, what's the syntax supposed to be?
02.08.02 Rat: "/privmsg nick channel message" i think
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calyxa: hey, Bruce
02.08.15 pushinfaders: Hello all
02.08.18 Rat: or /notice
02.08.25 artistken: hey PF
02.08.38 Rat: hi ya Push :]
calyxa: its /send on this one, but it keeps telling me 'channel not found'
02.08.55 Rat: hmm
02.09.38<Rat>: test
02.09.58 Rat: testing a bit here ....
calyxa: yeah, that works fine, but it's when I'm in a different channel that you're not in .
02.10.12 Rat: ok brb
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02.10.58 artistken: how you guys been?
calyxa: goin' crazy, as usual
02.11.35 pushinfaders: I just read some interesting info on Corel....seems they are selling everything, possiblt to a company called Vector Capitol...I didn't know Microsloth owned nearly 25% of Corel, which they sold to vector
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calyxa: no luck, huh, rat
02.12.59 Rat: hmmm hafta work on that
02.13.27 artistken: I finally did my tour of duty on the soundtrack for the film project, and on vacation this week and next so thought I'd drop in
calyxa: thanks for checkin' on it... there's a whole chapter in the v1 manual about all those spiff commands for 'vox, but I've only gotten the tiniest handful to work.
02.13.30 Rat: i anit given up yet, BUT there is a chan mode to stop what you want to do
calyxa: they let you take vacation, Ken??
02.14.01 Rat: chan mode -n stops channel msg's, to stop spamming
02.14.07 pushinfaders: being a Mod at Renderosity is keeping me busy Ken
calyxa: brb...
Autoaway is off
02.14.49 artistken: as only adjunct instructors we get 2 weeks off every quarter
02.15.20 pushinfaders: That's good Ken...everyone needs a break
02.15.35 artistken: its great to have 2 weeks off every 3 months but it does cut into the earnings!
02.15.46 pushinfaders: Ahhhh I see
02.17.14 pushinfaders: I'm working in a slightly different mode.. I'm building different library items instead of planets...I just finished 4 moons and one ATM...
02.17.50 artistken: I'm not complaining at all though, it's a great job, I just have to do some side work now and then, ala all the projects I am always working on! ;-)
02.18.09 artistken: I saw your moons on 'mune
02.18.16 artistken: cool
02.18.26 pushinfaders: All distorted noise
02.19.18 pushinfaders: interesting things happen when you use values other than the default for distortion size and amount
calyxa: back
02.19.57 Rat: wb
calyxa: yeah, that's like LFS for basis functions
02.22.12 Rat: I was wondering, does MJW use multi-processors?
02.22.33 pushinfaders: not yet
02.22.46 artistken: After running a gauntlet of corporate BS for the last 6 months we will finally have 2.0 in the classroom for the spring startup!
calyxa: yay!
02.23.08 Rat: ok, I didn't see it in sys specs, but was wondering :]
02.23.10 artistken: Finally
02.23.10 pushinfaders: That's great ken....Wooo Hooo
calyxa: there's apparently a bunch of cross-platform fu that puts a wrinkle in MP support.
calyxa: I think if they were able to drop OS 9 support that things would get a whole lot easier, but I'm not sure of all the issues.
02.24.28 Rat: :( make it Mac only MP :P *evil laff*
02.25.37 Rat: thats ok, it would just mean i would have to upgrade to machines :P (Like I need an excuse!)
02.25.41 pushinfaders: of course the one advantage would be , it would make it easier to run MJW in the background with Multi processor support...especially with stuff like Pshop
02.26.16 Rat: yuppers
calyxa: yeah... I try to avoid running MW and Pshop at the same time on my cube...
calyxa: I run it w/ a ton of other stuff all the time tho... email, web browser, itunes....
02.26.47 artistken: I dont run anything with MJW on my pcs
02.27.00 artistken: its very greedy
02.27.03 pushinfaders: Must be Nice !!!
02.27.10 pushinfaders: :-)
calyxa: I should qualify that by saying, "and I only run the simplest planets on my cube"...
02.27.45 pushinfaders: Since Mo's not here, I'll say it......BITE ME !!!!
02.27.47 artistken: really wanting an upgrade
02.27.50 Rat: *nod* multiple machines, one to render ones to work in PS, or another 3d proggie is good
calyxa: Mo's either in the air or at Weta Digital
02.28.07 artistken: 3 is my set up at home now
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calyxa: hi, meth!
02.28.21 methametric: yo
02.28.24 Rat: hi ya Meth :]
02.28.28 pushinfaders: Hey Yo
02.28.39 artistken: 1 is a dedicated mjw render station
02.29.07 artistken: thats the one I wnat to upgrade to a 3Ghz
02.29.20 Rat: Ken sounds like a good setup! My kitchen is a puter lab and pastel area now, no room to cook
02.29.22 artistken: pricey still though
02.29.46 pushinfaders: They will get cheaper soon..new chips on they way
02.29.49 artistken: who needs food ;-)
02.29.54 Rat: like Caly I have a Cube, which is my MJW and Byrce box
02.30.21 Rat: Ken u got that right! I live next to a pizza joint .....
02.30.47 artistken: easy!
calyxa: it being 'chat night', my other half will be bringing home some sort of take out. ;)
02.31.08 Rat: lol!
02.31.19 pushinfaders: (doing his best Homer Simpson) mmmmmm Pizza
calyxa: mmmmmmmm, unexplained bacon!
02.31.44 Rat: *grin* greasy keyboard tho, bad for modeling :]
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02.32.51 Rat: ridged like that
02.32.55 pushinfaders: isn't metametric Gavin?
calyxa: I forget...
02.33.42 pushinfaders: His usual dish problems I guess
calyxa: hopefully that's it and not that he's unhappy w/ the boring chit-chat.
calyxa: didja all see my 'termite cooling mounds'?
02.34.34 Rat: sorry if I am going on with the chit-chat :\
02.34.37 artistken: the blu ones
02.34.53 Rat: Caly un huh I did and commented :]
02.34.55 artistken: with cool flat fins
02.34.56 pushinfaders: Those were way cool....alien processor cooling towers
calyxa: I made a chrome test... but it's not worthy of posting... but I'll show ya -
calyxa: http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/private/tcmchrome1.jpg
02.35.42 Rat: cool! how long did it take to render?
calyxa: not too much longer than the plain ones, amazingly enough. about 24 hours.
02.36.06 pushinfaders: The ones in the foreground look pretty cool
02.36.08 artistken: tesla woould be proud
calyxa: but I'm really bummed out about the blown-out ones in the background...
02.36.20 artistken: tehy do look very cool
02.36.30 Rat: Caly that anit bad, esp for a crome mat :]
calyxa: I've twiddled it and went to a totally different spot on the planet... it's been stuck at 0% all day.
02.37.01 Rat: a little depth of field in PS and no one would know :P
calyxa: or some kind of post w/ the previous render :)
02.37.22 Rat: *grin*
02.37.38 artistken: I'm struggling with a Frven mod right now
02.37.47 Rat: I wonder how they would look in glass mat?
calyxa: the thought has crossed my mind!
02.38.05 pushinfaders: yea gads...Friven tweaking???
02.38.23 Rat: Frven ?
calyxa: it was a challenge planet at 3dc,right?
02.38.41 pushinfaders: Planet Frven, by Aktati
02.38.56 pushinfaders: major wacked displacements
02.39.12 artistken: had a minor skin surgery yesterday so today i'm kind of relaxed and in a Frven sort of mood ;-)
calyxa: her stuff is always on such a huge scale! my termite mounds are maybe only 5 meters tall.
02.39.25 Rat: <--- new to MJW, but not new to 3d. I see I have a lot of user sites to catch up on :)
calyxa: free stuff at 3d commune is not to be missed!
02.39.46 Rat: Ken u ok now?
02.39.48 artistken: I like those C
calyxa: tho a lot of the earlier ones are on the v2 CD
02.40.00 artistken: I like the pineapples as well
calyxa: ah, my beloved pineapples....
02.40.21 artistken: yes, me fine thanks
02.41.00 Rat: good!
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02.41.00 artistken: just a few too many hours in the Florida sun as a kid!
02.41.04 John_Spirko: good evening!
02.41.05 Rat: JOHN!!! :)
02.41.13 John_Spirko: hey Rat!
02.41.19 artistken: eve mr J
calyxa: I need to put together a tutorial that's about stone roses and pineapples and termite cooling mounds...
calyxa: hey, John!
02.41.30 Rat: Ken ewww, yeah I don't burn anymore, I "scale" :\
02.41.33 John_Spirko: hello Ken and of course Caly!
calyxa: (things froze up here for a bit... maybe it's time to kill that 'stuck at 0% all day' render...)
02.41.51 Rat: John ---> "daRAT"
02.42.16 Rat: errr, that is I am "daRAT" *grin*
02.42.18 pushinfaders: hello John
02.42.28 John_Spirko: LOL
02.42.46 John_Spirko: hello Bruce! everything work okay on that file?
02.42.48 Rat: now we need Betty here :]
02.42.55 John_Spirko: she just left BT
calyxa: I haven't seen Betty in ages...
02.43.11 John_Spirko: O fprgpt ot was Thursday
02.43.18 John_Spirko: oops I forgot it was Thursday
02.43.26 pushinfaders: It worked great John..Thanks soo much...it's been well recieved
02.43.29 Rat: Caly Brycetalk, we usually hang out there :]