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02.06.50 Chas: go get them others
02.06.51 DocMojo: Hey, how do I enlarge the font again?
calyxa: click in the window, type the + sign
02.07.20 SINTHETIC: +
02.07.25 SINTHETIC: like that?
calyxa: click in the upper window first
02.07.44 SINTHETIC: +
02.07.53 SINTHETIC: uh did that do anything?
02.08.03 SINTHETIC: sorry I am obviously very new to this =)
02.08.05 Chas: Yeah Synthomesc
calyxa: it will only change in your client. you may have to type + more than once to get the font to change noticably
02.08.20 SINTHETIC: and ignore my list post about getting registered i figured it out finally
02.08.24 Chas: Let's all go to the milk bar
02.08.54 DocMojo: ++++++++++\
calyxa: click in the upper window first, Mo
02.09.07 Chas: I gotta shower for radio show... I'm goin' lurk-mode
02.09.12 DocMojo: Cool. Works, except in the xmission q.
02.09.38 SINTHETIC: ok I hit the x?
02.10.05 Stevo: Sorry, I'm new to this.
02.10.12 SINTHETIC: that is my line
02.10.14 DocMojo: Hit the plus siign
calyxa: I could force you out, but last time I did that, it quit the person out of 'vox entirely!
02.10.41 DocMojo: Caly the Bouncer!
02.11.09 SINTHETIC: Doc I just realized do you want me to redo that original banner as well now that I have the fonts?
02.11.14 DocMojo: Canadian women vs. US women--grudge match!!! (in hockey)
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calyxa: how's that game going!?
02.11.32 DocMojo: That would be nice!
02.11.41 DocMojo: We need it for 3d commune tomorrow...
02.11.57 DocMojo: I'm not paying attention to the game...
02.12.02 SINTHETIC: Cool , I will do it tomorrow, I have been SUPER busy, but don't worry I get back on the horse
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calyxa: hey, Stevo, sorry for the confusion!!!
02.12.29 DocMojo: Not to worry. We can hang them up for a bit,,,
02.12.38 SINTHETIC: I must say this a very nice feature to have with a program, very unique I wish others did this!
02.12.46 Stevo: That's alright, I killed the session and logged back on.
02.12.52 DocMojo: It is useful, no?
02.13.00 DocMojo: Learned it from Bryuce 4.0.
02.13.03 SINTHETIC: Awesome
02.13.16 SINTHETIC: Oh my gawd that is right that have bryce chat or something?
02.13.24 SINTHETIC: i had forgotten
calyxa: brycetalk. it was great
calyxa: of course, 'vox is way better. ;)
02.13.54 DocMojo: But of course!
02.14.01 SINTHETIC: yes this is very nive to have
02.14.10 DocMojo: CA 3 US 1
calyxa: oog.
02.14.24 Stevo: Blame Canada
calyxa: HA!
02.14.32 SINTHETIC: I am still learning parameter bombs any advice for a total newbie on making something other than the manual tutorial?
02.14.37 DocMojo: 3 : 2 now!
calyxa: you go, girls!
calyxa: I have some tutorials at my site, SIN
calyxa: http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/
02.15.07 SINTHETIC: oh great thanks I will go there this weekend then!!!
02.15.09 SINTHETIC: thanks
calyxa: there's one on using a bitmap heightfield inside of a PB
02.15.15 SINTHETIC: woohoo!
02.15.17 DocMojo: I've never doen anything but the simplest with PBs...
02.15.35 DocMojo: That ROCKS, Caly!
02.15.35 SINTHETIC: oh really that sounds liek it may be easier for me, like other 3D I do
calyxa: thanks, Mo
calyxa: Mo, did you see my beachball?
02.16.30 DocMojo: So, Steveo, how long ya been usin' MW?
02.16.42 DocMojo: No,. I didn't...
02.16.57 SINTHETIC: can we view images from this Vox?
02.17.00 Stevo: Since X-Mas. It was a good present to myself!
calyxa: links are active, SIN. they'll launch a browser
02.17.15 DocMojo: Welcome aboard!!!
02.17.15 SINTHETIC: ahh cool!
calyxa: http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/beachballbeach.jpg
02.17.46 DocMojo: I made a kind of beach ball today, in finding a bug...
calyxa: beachballs are colored procedurally
02.18.02 SINTHETIC: the ball is procedural?
calyxa: the ball is a sphere w/ a procedural material on it
02.18.16 Stevo: Any advise on moving imported objects around?
02.18.28 DocMojo: Cool! I hadn't launched a browser from MV before!
calyxa: moving imported objects is something that Needs Work...
02.19.03 SINTHETIC: Cal can yuo do this with anything? Procedural maps like Hacker, how do you learn that, trial and error?
02.19.07 DocMojo: It's WAY better in 1.1...
calyxa: Hacker is a madman.
02.19.33 DocMojo: "No shit."
02.19.39 SINTHETIC: is he making tutorials as well I hope?
calyxa: all the primitives have a UV coordinate system... it's a matter of ripping the UV vector apart and ... well... I ought to write a beachball tutorial or something...
02.20.05 DocMojo: His English is a little dicey...
calyxa: oui oui
02.20.16 SINTHETIC: heh heh German?
02.20.19 SINTHETIC: Fench?
02.20.23 SINTHETIC: er French?
02.20.28 DocMojo: French Swiss...
calyxa: ah, that explains it
02.20.38 SINTHETIC: What is his background?
calyxa: mathematics, I think
02.20.52 SINTHETIC: like you guys ehh?
calyxa: I'm stoked that I was able to help him w/ his artifact problem!
02.21.05 SINTHETIC: I must be the only left brain here, no wait right...I mean?
calyxa: hey, I hate math
02.21.23 SINTHETIC: Good thanks Cal!!!
02.21.26 DocMojo: Canada wins!
calyxa: boo!
02.21.34 DocMojo: I say we annex them immediately.
02.21.36 Stevo: Boo
02.22.03 SINTHETIC: Where are most beginners running into problems with Generator?
02.22.10 SINTHETIC: Most FAQ?
02.22.15 DocMojo: Caly?
calyxa: why is Install Shield a POS?
02.22.44 DocMojo: HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
02.22.44 SINTHETIC: is that a pc thing?
calyxa: um... textures and materials, which is pretty much "everything".... sigh.
calyxa: yeah, SIN
02.23.18 SINTHETIC: heh heh ok do you think most people don't read the manual and then end up clueless?
02.23.27 DocMojo: Making MW more "usable" is top priority for 2.0.
02.23.35 SINTHETIC: It appears you have to read this cover to cover
02.23.39 DocMojo: Few people read manuals.
02.23.44 SINTHETIC: Yes Doc woohh
02.23.46 DocMojo: I'm not one of them!!!
02.23.48 SINTHETIC: er Woohoo!
02.23.56 SINTHETIC: I do...but slowly
calyxa: even so, I think that the whole texture thing is mysterious regardless of what's in the manual and whether or not it gets read.
02.24.17 DocMojo: I didn. until I figured they're usually WORTHLESS>
02.24.21 SINTHETIC: I see it takes time to make something original looking
calyxa: "all fractals look alike"
02.24.43 SINTHETIC: Yes tech writers don't seem to know the manual as well as users often enough
02.24.45 Stevo: how does the book glow with no energy, that's what I want to know
02.24.54 SINTHETIC: it is a hard thing to do (write) I imagine?
calyxa: it absorbs light energy and emits it later.
calyxa: even harder to write about something that doesn't exist yet...
02.25.10 Stevo: Wild
02.25.24 DocMojo: Radium., Steveo. >;^)
02.25.28 SINTHETIC: that is cool had to go try!!
calyxa: it's those copper coils along the spine...
02.25.37 SINTHETIC: I didn't know I got one of the glowing ones woohoo!
02.25.47 Stevo: I need that for my wall paper
02.25.54 SINTHETIC: you guys are very unique I like that...but don't get TOO unique =)
02.26.15 DocMojo: That glowing ink was, like, $2000 / gallon.
02.26.37 SINTHETIC: stay withing the realm of us cerebral flatuance
02.26.43 DocMojo: SIN: MW is a very deep and ocmplex app,
02.26.44 SINTHETIC: like me heh heh
02.26.51 SINTHETIC: yes it is
02.26.58 DocMojo: It contains pretty much all of my research over the last 15 years.
02.27.06 DocMojo: Not trivial!
02.27.11 SINTHETIC: I see that, it is more in depth than ANY other 3D app I have used
02.27.20 DocMojo: I got a PhD froom Yale for the early parts...!
02.27.31 SINTHETIC: I read ALL your history Doc!!!
02.27.36 SINTHETIC: Very impressive indeed!
02.27.46 SINTHETIC: Most famous person I have e-met!!! =)
02.27.47 DocMojo: Yeah, I'll be years plumbing it myself. No lie!
02.27.48 SINTHETIC: heh heh
02.28.05 Stevo: I found Bryce difficult to get a large environment. Thanks Doc
02.28.13 DocMojo: Ha ha--I'm HUGE--but mostly on teh Internet.
02.28.17 DocMojo: Ask caly.
02.28.41 SINTHETIC: heh heh seriously your history and work are very impressive to say the least/ end kiss ass
02.28.42 Chas: I am away.
02.28.53 DocMojo: Yes, that's the main new thing about MW: it's the first truly GLOBAL environement.
calyxa: ask me what?
02.29.17 SINTHETIC: bryce was more "micro" mojo is more "macro" yes?
02.29.29 DocMojo: Yeah, well, to meet me is to find I'm highly overrrated, ;-)
02.29.37 SINTHETIC: heh heh
02.29.42 DocMojo: If I'm a fraud (in person).
02.30.16 SINTHETIC: Caly sorry for my ignorance what is your position with MojoWorld? Programmer?
02.30.18 DocMojo: That term has a deep history with Uncle Benni.
calyxa: my "position"... hmm.
02.30.36 SINTHETIC: your affiliation then
02.30.42 DocMojo: There's an Original Fractal Fraud.
02.30.45 DocMojo: And it's not me...
02.30.58 SINTHETIC: who then? Someone stole from you?
02.31.05 DocMojo: HA HA--answer THAT one, Caly!
calyxa: for the question, "what do you do at Pandromeda," I usually answer, "anything I can get away with"
02.31.19 DocMojo: Good answer!
02.31.28 SINTHETIC: ahhh ok....uh....huh?
calyxa: then there was that stint as "special assistant to the vice president" but I'd better not go there...
02.31.53 DocMojo: Pand. is a very loosely organized organization.
02.32.02 DocMojo: Very "virtual."
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02.32.24 DocMojo: Hallo!
calyxa: hi, Artistken!
02.33.06 DocMojo: I be an artist named "Ken."
02.33.16 SINTHETIC: Do you guys have bump or procedural maps on any sites to download so that I may look at them to make my own? I can make my own maps for other 3D apps, it would be cool to see one.
02.33.17 DocMojo: But I prefer "Mo." ;-)
calyxa: on the Bryce vs Mojo - yeah, I'd say Bryce is more micro and Mojo more macro -- tho there's also the 'stage set' versus 'global setting' difference...
02.33.54 DocMojo: No B maps in MW--you don't need ;em when you have displacement maps.
calyxa: any time you see a jump logo next to an image in the Pandromeda gallery, that's the 'download this planet' button, SIN
02.34.06 SINTHETIC: yes I see that...Bryce is moving forward though, but can't touch the "global" thing liek you guys
02.34.11 DocMojo: But we'll add them in a future version.,
02.34.13 Stevo: I did like the objects menuevering capabilities in Bryce
02.34.18 DocMojo: for imported models, if nothing else.
02.34.48 SINTHETIC: That seemed a little strange for me in Mojo, I tried importing and had some trouble...not sure what I did wrong
02.34.52 DocMojo: I tried to do MW in B, but it's just nbot doable.
02.35.01 Stevo: Bryce is missing the heavy duty detail
02.35.03 DocMojo: Too many flatland assumptions.
02.35.25 SINTHETIC: Can I import DXFS?
calyxa: yes
02.35.31 SINTHETIC: ok
02.35.37 SINTHETIC: and IGES?
02.35.44 DocMojo: No.
calyxa: no, I don't think so.
02.35.54 DocMojo: (Never heard of that.)P
02.35.56 SINTHETIC: next version? important?
02.36.19 SINTHETIC: Do I have the name wrong? I mean to import real data?
02.36.28 SINTHETIC: Sorry I a little ignorant
02.36.30 DocMojo: DEMs? Yes.
02.36.46 SINTHETIC: Ahh DEMs, what the heck are IGES then?
02.36.48 Stevo: Geological survery data
02.36.53 SINTHETIC: CAD info yes? nevermind sorry
02.37.08 DocMojo: No, terrain info from the USGS.
02.37.17 SINTHETIC: that is what I thought Mojo Can't do that?
02.37.22 DocMojo: We import the "standard" formats.
02.37.27 SINTHETIC: I mean can't import that data yet?
calyxa: there's some app out there that'll convert IGES data to DEM data, I believe...
02.37.50 SINTHETIC: Gotcha, has anyone made a ral earth yet?
02.38.02 SINTHETIC: yes that sounds right Caly
02.38.07 DocMojo: No.
02.38.24 Stevo: Can you take the survey data into Bryce and then turn it into a workable version that can be imported to MW
calyxa: we need a way to specify lat/long data on PBs before we can build Earth
02.38.48 SINTHETIC: has anyone made a continent or state?
02.39.13 DocMojo: Only local pathces so far, Sin.
calyxa: just ERIC land...
02.39.18 SINTHETIC: if you guys can do that it would be HUGE!!!
02.39.36 SINTHETIC: then you step into a whole new ballpark!
02.39.40 DocMojo: We can do our OWN continents...
02.39.55 DocMojo: with teh soon to be released Rivers plugin.
02.39.59 SINTHETIC: I know but it would be super cool to make a mix of both!
calyxa: there was my "planet with a virus".... http://www.3dcommune.com/3d/galview.mv?MojoWorld+1QfsdSanU+1010129394
02.40.11 DocMojo: Yes, and it's very hard...
02.40.12 SINTHETIC: An after WWW3 thing
02.40.52 SINTHETIC: Very cool Caly!
02.40.57 DocMojo: I LOVE that one, Caly!
02.41.04 DocMojo: Very funny, too...
02.41.05 SINTHETIC: I like that, could be used for many Adverts!
02.41.10 DocMojo: (if topical)
02.41.34 DocMojo: Yeah, zoom into the Ford continent
02.41.44 DocMojo: infested with Explorers..
02.41.53 DocMojo: turning over and exploding in flames..
02.42.02 DocMojo: Heh heh,
calyxa: I have an old render somewhere of X lake, a lake in the cross in the X in 'calyxa'...
02.42.30 SINTHETIC: cool let me knw if you dig it up...these are done with maps yes?
02.42.33 DocMojo: I'd like to see that...
02.42.48 Stevo: ads new meaning to firestone
calyxa: done w/ the bitmap in a PB tutorial at my site...
02.43.00 DocMojo: No, our river-continents are procedural.
02.43.15 SINTHETIC: Cool I will check that too Caly
02.43.16 DocMojo: What do you think I am, a DATA WHORE???? >;^)
02.43.45 SINTHETIC: The program I use makes very nice procedural wood, rock, tile etc.
02.43.57 SINTHETIC: Yours makes much more insane things!!
02.43.59 DocMojo: Which is that?
02.44.06 SINTHETIC: Strata3DPro
02.44.16 DocMojo: Never seen it.
02.44.19 SINTHETIC: It's getting another huge upgrade, I am beta testing that too
02.44.25 DocMojo: Cool.
02.44.29 SINTHETIC: I eill show you a Cubic QTVR I am king
02.44.38 DocMojo: Not many people do original things with procedurals.
02.44.42 SINTHETIC: it is very detailed and huge poly wise but very nie when done