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01.48.29 ghost: hey
01.48.45 calyxa: hey, do you know how to export in VRML?
01.50.21 ghost: nope
01.50.28 ghost: from what?
01.50.47 calyxa: from a parameter bomb... I have mail from Bryce indicating it should do it, but my tests haven't worked...
01.50.53 calyxa: I'll just ask Chris...
01.51.58 ghost: ok
01.52.05 ghost: I don't know what viewer you'd use.
01.52.30 calyxa: every extension I've tried has just added an additional .png to the end and results in a greyscale heightmap.
01.53.00 calyxa: I don't know what viewer I'd use either, but figured if it had the right extension, that'd be half the battle...
01.54.07 calyxa: I never saw an announcement from Chas about this 'event', did you?
01.54.30 ghost: um
01.54.39 ghost: I' just happend to be online.
01.54.41 ghost: :o)
01.54.47 ghost: what event?
01.54.59 calyxa: heh, supposed to be the "regular" thursday nite event starting "now"
01.55.13 ghost: I didn't know that we were exporting vrml
01.55.36 calyxa: just terrain patches, not whole planets... at least according to that mail from Bryce from a while back.
01.56.12 ghost: hmmm...
01.56.15 ghost: did you e.mail him?
01.56.21 ghost: vrml is poly data
01.56.32 calyxa: I sent the mail to 'support-engineer' since it's in reply to a customer question...
01.56.39 ghost: the current export scheme seems to be only HF or 16bpp grescale
01.57.22 calyxa: obj, DXF and LWO, too, according to Bryce...
01.57.26 calyxa: I've tried obj, even.
01.58.07 calyxa: on the PC side... Mac needs a patch to do exports, I believe.. there was a beta patch for it, but it just timed out a day or two ago.
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02.00.06 ghost: boo
02.00.08 calyxa: heya, Chas
02.00.16 chas: Hey ho MojoNauts
02.00.21 calyxa: where was the announcement, man?
02.00.48 calyxa: did you guys see my animation?
02.00.51 chas: Whatchu talkin about... I sent it out to our mojonauts mailing list... Aren't you on that?
02.01.11 calyxa: I thought I was... I know I asked you to put me on it a while back, 'cuz I wasn't on it when 1.1 went beta...
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02.01.38 calyxa: heya, pink boy
02.01.38 chas: Yeah... but Mathew and I just totaly revamped it all... I'll make sure you get re entered
02.01.48 chas: PINKMO
02.01.49 DocMojo: Woo hoo! The Doctor is in!
02.02.03 DocMojo: WAAAAY PINK!
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02.02.11 chas: Putting the MO back in...
02.02.15 calyxa: hey, rex
02.02.22 DocMojo: MO-RON!
02.02.41 rex: hey---did i come at a bad time doc? ;-)
02.02.59 chas: There's EL RON... and then there's MO RON
02.03.04 DocMojo: But of course! There is NO good time.
02.03.11 rex: good point!
02.03.17 DocMojo: Then there
02.03.41 DocMojo: 's DE-DO-RONN-RON-RON-DE-DO-RON-RON
02.03.41 chas: Folks... check out the new animation I just posted in the pandromeda gallery by Krummen Hacker
02.03.57 chas: Called Wrooom
02.04.37 chas: He's got a freeway with cars moving along it. Seems like a test, so it's very crude, but it shows where we're going
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02.04.55 DocMojo: tHIS MAN IS A fiend.
02.05.09 calyxa: is that Bernard?
02.05.16 DocMojo: Yep.
02.05.30 calyxa: he totally loaded up the database with feature requests the other day.
02.05.33 chas: Yes.
02.05.50 DocMojo: Did he? Are they "good" ones?
02.05.59 DocMojo: (Whatever that means!)
02.06.23 calyxa: there was one that was a duplicate of something submitted 500 entries ago, that qualifies as 'good'
02.06.28 chas: And CHEERS to you Rex too. I've been totally diggin on what you've been doing in MjW
02.06.39 DocMojo: I'm SO happy I'm not a plane to NZ tonight I could just dance!
02.06.51 chas: TO ALL: Send me stuff... I'll post it
02.07.05 calyxa: are you going to not go to NZ? or just go later?
02.07.11 DocMojo: The guy is prescient. Thta's "good".
02.07.19 DocMojo: Or is he postscient?
02.07.20 rex: thanks - been trying...I am fighting with converting a startgate model from bryce odp to 3ds so I can get it in mjw
02.07.29 chas: Well... there's no one in here yet. Remind me to say that again in 1/2 hour.
02.07.36 calyxa: nothing converts Bryce's format...
02.07.37 DocMojo: Rex: Love your Star Wars scene!
02.07.45 rex: thanks doc
02.07.56 chas: YeEAH... That Snow Walker RULES
02.07.57 DocMojo: Thank you!
02.08.13 rex: gosh <blush>
02.08.13 calyxa: ah, the snow walker, I saw that one - great stuff.
02.08.16 DocMojo: "Come to the Dark Side."
02.08.20 DocMojo: -Darth Mojo
02.08.33 rex: "I am your father"...
02.08.36 chas: I could DEFINTELY use more images and QTVRs like THAT!!!
02.08.49 chas: Luke... Stop kissing your sister
02.08.52 DocMojo: I thought I was YOUR father!
02.09.04 calyxa: I got Poser 4 today, so we'll see what, if anything, I can do with it...
02.09.10 chas: "He's sooo old."
02.09.11 DocMojo: Is that the mother of your child?
02.09.25 DocMojo: HEY CHAS: BITE ME.
02.09.28 calyxa: gonna have to make a "Taking Back The Knowledge" to go with my "Taking Back The Ritual" and "Giving In To Sweetness" series...
02.10.14 DocMojo: Woah--that Bernard is one sick mind!
02.10.20 DocMojo: My kind of guy!!!
02.10.34 rex: the stargate I'm using from bryce has the "water"in the middle of it but mjw doesn't seem to recognize it and wont render it correctly --- any ideas?
02.10.37 DocMojo: I'm going on Weds.
02.10.42 DocMojo: Business class.
02.10.44 calyxa: cool
02.10.46 DocMojo: On FF miles.
02.11.00 DocMojo: Praise th eLord!
02.11.46 calyxa: Mojo won't do water in anything except an ocean primitive.
02.11.59 DocMojo: Everyone: I had 350,000 frequent flyer miles at teh beginning of 2001. Now I've wiped them out. ;-)
02.12.11 calyxa: it'll do transparent transparency, but you can't get index of refraction on small objects.
02.12.16 rex: so thats why it looks just like a dark panel...drat...
02.12.23 calyxa: ya... "version 2!"
02.12.38 calyxa: or post-process....
02.12.40 DocMojo: Xparency is a version 2.0 thing (we hope).
02.12.46 rex: and when's that again???? ;-)
02.12.58 DocMojo: Oh, tomorrow...
02.13.01 calyxa: how long will it take us to clone Craig?
02.13.01 DocMojo: NOT
02.13.17 DocMojo: They vats are bubbling...
02.13.23 rex: ah, well, can't blame me fur tryin'
02.13.35 DocMojo: No, we caint.
02.13.41 rex: so doc, you liked ff?
02.14.01 DocMojo: Well, I F frequently... ;-)
02.14.32 rex: i meant Final Fantasy
02.14.37 DocMojo: It's nice when you get to Premiere Gold Star Executive status.
02.14.57 DocMojo: Even United is nice to regular customers.
02.15.06 DocMojo: (When they're up to it.)
02.15.31 DocMojo: (Unlike Pandromeda, who are ALWAYS nice--except to each other!!!)
02.15.56 DocMojo: Oh, FF--yes--I was BLOWN AWAY.
02.16.02 DocMojo: Like, TOTALLY.
02.16.13 rex: what parts did they have you in mind for?
02.16.22 calyxa: he was gonna play the babe.
02.16.27 DocMojo: There were SO many tricks and subtleties in there I was AMAZED.
02.16.42 rex: hey, i was just hoping doc could introduce me to her someday... ;-)
02.16.44 DocMojo: HEY CALY: BITE ME.
02.16.47 calyxa: that thing was so visually rich that anyone not in "the biz" probably missed 90% of it.
02.16.54 calyxa: come over here
02.17.07 rex: i bought the dvd and the book on making it...amazing
02.17.10 DocMojo: I was going to do "photosurrealism" for them--stuff like Comet Leary.
02.17.43 rex: very cool, doc, but i'm glad we got mjw instead
02.17.54 DocMojo: I'm glad you're glad.
02.18.09 DocMojo: I'm sure it will make the larger difference, in the end.
02.18.21 calyxa: if it wasn't for MW, I wouldn't have seen FF.
02.18.25 DocMojo: What I hope I learned at Meta was how to reach people like you.
02.18.29 DocMojo: No kidding.
02.18.51 DocMojo: I was (and still am, according to many) lost in teh clouds, the ivory tower.
02.18.56 rex: I bet meta was frustrating tho...since they killed it
02.19.09 DocMojo: But it's SO coll to get teh Power to the People!
02.19.26 DocMojo: Yeah, I still get hot over that.
02.19.38 DocMojo: Seems like a 100% greed-driven move.
02.19.44 rex: how long were you there b4 they killed it?
02.19.49 DocMojo: The price of having doen an IPO, methinks.
02.19.57 DocMojo: 2 years.
02.20.17 DocMojo: It was teh dot-com craze.
02.20.26 rex: whew...how is "...stream" doing now anyway...I have'nt heard much about em
02.20.28 DocMojo: They wanted to do another red-hor dot-com IPO.
02.20.31 DocMojo: Tools.
02.21.03 rex: my company did our ipo just b4 the bottom fell out...thank god
02.21.19 DocMojo: I wanted to look them up on YahooQuotes, but I don't know the company ID for Viewpoint.
02.21.35 rex: did viewpoint buy em?
02.21.37 DocMojo: Didja make anything?
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02.21.49 calyxa: heya, Codini
02.21.51 chas: Hey yo Codini
02.21.55 DocMojo: Hey, Codini!
02.21.58 Codini: I'm here
02.22.00 rex: yeah, i'm driving my proceeds from the ipo...
02.22.00 DocMojo: BITE ME!
02.22.04 rex: hey codini
02.22.13 Codini: Howdy
02.22.27 Codini: Puttin' the Mo back in Mo-ron
02.22.39 DocMojo: Excellent, Rex! I have two neighbors who are younger than me and RETIRED.
02.22.48 DocMojo: (I hate people like that.) ;-)
02.23.04 rex: well, it wasn't that much...is just a used protege...but I was happy!
02.23.11 DocMojo: I already used that line tonite, Codini...
02.23.16 Codini: I got OS x tinstalled today
02.23.37 DocMojo: Cool. How's MW on it? I hear it's REALLY slow.
02.23.39 calyxa: excellent!
02.23.48 calyxa: ya, really slow.. but I love having a command line.
02.23.57 Codini: just finished and haven't tried MJW yet
02.24.00 DocMojo: Ah, vi....
02.24.13 chas: Hey everyone... listen to ESO Radio tonight - www.wcsb.org, 11pm-1am EST. Legume sent me the whole show for tonight via ICQ. I just burned it to CD. Good stuff... Walter Brennan, Pickin' on Zeppelin... Woodie Guthrie... African drumming... all sorts of fun stuff for your ears.
02.24.18 calyxa: you'll want to pause the RTR every chance you got... other than that, tho, it is
02.24.21 calyxa: usable.
02.24.58 DocMojo: Cool, Chas. Beat them drums!
02.25.09 calyxa: that's streaming audio? I may have to give it a try.
02.25.29 chas: Yeah... just go to www.wcsb.org
02.25.31 DocMojo: (Y'all should know how Chas, Legume, Codini and I met--a weird and sordid tale!)
02.25.34 rex: i have to sleep...must work in morning...early meeting...ugh
02.25.49 rex: maybe next time chas
02.25.54 chas: I think there's various ways to stream it.
02.26.01 DocMojo: So Rex, are you going to write MW pug-ins for us?
02.26.15 chas: Keep that mojo workin Rex... You Rule!!! Mojonaut
02.26.33 DocMojo: Steely-eyed Mojonaut.
02.26.38 DocMojo: I love that term...
02.26.40 calyxa: there's one I want to write, if I can dust off my programming skills enough to work it out...
02.26.42 rex: well, i am a hacker by trade so it sure sounds interesting...
02.26.59 DocMojo: Cool! Hack at will...
02.27.09 rex: ahem...have to have the SDK of course.... ;-)
02.27.10 DocMojo: Craig tells me he's writing up our SDK.
02.27.14 Codini: I hear Legume wrote a pretty good ego deflater today
02.27.46 DocMojo: I bitch slapped him reflexively, before my aligator brain even got a vote!
02.27.59 calyxa: have Craig send me the SDK... if I can figure it out, then anyone who can write 'hello world' will be able to handle it.
02.28.18 DocMojo: Believe me, we'll make a noise when the SDK comes out!
02.28.30 Codini: >smoke break<
02.28.42 DocMojo: We figure that MOST of MW's future lies in teh hands of people like yourself.
02.28.45 DocMojo: Not kidding!
02.28.56 calyxa: brb...
02.29.00 rex: so, the sdk will use C++ or will it support other object languages?
02.29.38 DocMojo: Uh, you can link in all sorts of languages to C, therefore, I presume, C++.
02.29.46 DocMojo: If you're a hacker... ;-)
02.30.07 DocMojo: MW is C++.
02.30.30 DocMojo: "Someday I'll get to program again, too."
02.30.41 rex: yeah, but with mjw written in c++ i'll probably just hang there with you folks...your using Microsoft C++?
02.31.03 DocMojo: Generic as we can make it.
02.31.22 DocMojo: VCC for the PC, Metrowerks for the Mac,
02.31.25 rex: but using MS compiler and tools or somebody elses?
02.31.35 rex: ahh, theres the answer - thanks
02.31.35 DocMojo: Gnu C++ for linux.
02.32.03 DocMojo: Intel compiler, for the critical stuff.
02.32.17 DocMojo: "Resist Darth Bill!"
02.32.27 DocMojo: Even if resistance is futile...
02.32.28 rex: amen to that!
02.32.41 rex: so how did macworld go?
02.32.48 DocMojo: VERY well.
02.33.02 rex: did they use some of our qtvrs?
02.33.04 DocMojo: We got an amazing amount done in a very short time.
02.33.14 DocMojo: They had a mess of them there.
02.33.20 rex: cool!
02.33.34 DocMojo: I had to tell the operators which ones they were, and whence they came.
02.33.39 DocMojo: "They know now." ;-)
02.33.41 rex: what were you trying to accomplish at this show?
02.34.01 DocMojo: Grub grub grub!
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02.34.10 DocMojo: Connections, connections, connections.
02.34.12 calyxa: hey, Chris
02.34.16 rex: hey chris!
02.34.18 DocMojo: Hay, Chris!
02.34.25 DocMojo: SLACKER.
02.34.27 chris_dickson: mmm,...what did i just walk into...
02.34.37 rex: more doc abuse
02.34.40 DocMojo: A TRAP! RUN AWAY!
02.34.52 DocMojo: (Chris is used to that.)
02.34.56 chris_dickson: i think so,....i might away and hide
02.35.10 rex: doc, glad you made good connections at the show
02.35.16 DocMojo: I can hear you sniggering from here
02.35.35 DocMojo: even though you're on THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET.
02.35.41 DocMojo: Ain't teh Internet great?
02.35.47 rex: chris is a kiwi?
02.35.54 DocMojo: Yep.
02.36.06 rex: what do you do for pandromeda chris?
02.36.10 DocMojo: Craig's right-hand man, our Linux guru.
02.36.20 rex: cool! a good guy to know!
02.36.23 calyxa: support engineer duty, too
02.36.25 chris_dickson: it's better than being a pain in the arss american <sorry generally aimed at ken>
02.36.28 DocMojo: (And my whippin' boy.)
02.36.37 calyxa: thought that was Craig...
02.36.44 rex: doh...that hurt chris!!!
02.36.58 Codini: I thoght you liked whippin chihuahuas
02.36.58 DocMojo: (I hope so.)
02.37.30 DocMojo: (He's one of those napalm-off-a-duck's-back knida furrin scum types.)
02.37.32 Codini: +
02.38.02 DocMojo: As all must know by now, I'm just generally fond of abuse.
02.38.14 chris_dickson: mmm,...but remember i know where u'll be staying in about a weeks time,....hehhee
02.38.23 rex: hey, i've been married twice...me too!!!
02.38.25 Codini: yeah mo, we heard about your adventures on the castro
02.38.29 DocMojo: Imagine, if you will, how I treat MYSELF here in my eftid mind.
02.38.33 DocMojo: Ain't pretty.
02.39.16 DocMojo: You always know where to find me, Dickson.
02.39.30 DocMojo: But first you have to FIND YOUR WAY THERE.
02.39.34 DocMojo: I feel very safe...
02.39.58 rex: what have you folks decided on the whole hardware vs. software RTR support thing? have you folks talked about this yet?
02.40.23 chris_dickson: what do mean rex??
02.40.27 DocMojo: Wel, it's pretty much up to the cards (hardware) at this point.
02.41.03 DocMojo: So there's not much to decide, other than OpenGL vs. The Evil Empier's DirectX.
02.41.05 DocMojo: Ack.
02.41.58 chris_dickson: that's if OpenGL stays around since MSW just paid 62million to SGI for patents
02.42.00 rex: I get slower RTR with software OpenGL with sky color vs. faster RTR and no sky with hardware only OpenGL (1.1) . Just wonderin if you folks might add a switch to go back and forth
02.42.02 DocMojo: You *can* do it in software--Viewpoint does that--but those days are numbered.
02.42.26 rex: yeah, don't go to the evil empire! please!!!
02.42.29 DocMojo: Hmm. Chris
02.42.36 DocMojo: ?
02.42.46 calyxa: my understanding was that we never intended to support software GL and it was an "accident" that it worked in earlier versions of MW at all.
02.42.52 DocMojo: "There can be only one."
02.42.59 DocMojo: "Bill or Mo."
02.43.15 DocMojo: My understanding, too.
02.43.57 DocMojo: (Ever notice: They always come in twos...)
02.44.01 rex: oops...well, guess I need to look at gettin' a different laptop...bummer...cause Compaq is _NO_ help... Dell Inspiron here I come!
02.44.19 rex: anybody want a Compaq laptop cheap? ;-)
02.44.32 DocMojo: I like my Inspiron.
02.44.47 DocMojo: The GeForce2Go rocks.
02.44.56 rex: mjw obviously runs fine for you....what model do you have?
02.45.27 DocMojo: Uh, the 1 GHz model circa August 2001...
02.45.43 DocMojo: Not quite obsolete yet... ;-)
02.46.40 rex: <beats head repeatedly with fist> shoulda bought the dell first, shoulda bought the dell first...
02.46.59 chris_dickson: in Intel price list about 28 of jan
02.47.01 DocMojo: Codini, I've made you yellow--liek your belly.
02.47.15 DocMojo: Chris, I've made you Pink. Like all of us.
02.47.31 Codini: what did you say you want to lick my belly?
02.47.33 Codini: no thanks mop
02.47.46 DocMojo: BITE ME.
02.47.50 Codini: no thanks mo
02.48.04 rex: work is about to get me a dell 1.13 gig dell laptop... but thats for work... mjw might just find it's way on there somehow tho!
02.48.16 DocMojo: We like Dell here at Pan. No trouble beyond the accepatable, so far.
02.48.20 calyxa: "bench test" rex
02.48.22 DocMojo: Service is good.
02.48.23 Codini: I'm lookin' for a color for you mo
02.48.27 DocMojo: Delivery is great.
02.48.32 Codini: is there a shit brown?
02.48.50 calyxa: gotta full MW color picker there... I'm sure you can find something
02.48.51 DocMojo: I've got myself a very gay fuschia here...
02.49.02 Codini: hmmmm
02.49.04 calyxa: heh, that's what color I've got you, too
02.49.11 DocMojo: Brown's hard to read.
02.49.13 rex: how do ya change colors? guess i gotta go get my "glowin" manual again...where did i put that....
02.49.26 calyxa: select a name in the name list, then click the color dot
02.49.33 DocMojo: See the list on teh left?
02.49.43 DocMojo: Thans, Caly.
02.49.57 calyxa: it's reflexive...
02.49.58 rex: wow, cool...who woulda thought...
02.50.33 rex: ok...now talk so I can see it!!!
02.50.34 DocMojo: Very helpful. This way you can ignore, well, Codini, say.
02.50.45 DocMojo: balh balh blah
02.50.47 chas: Lurker Chas says: Gotta run... See ya all on the air waves. www.wcsb.or in one hour
02.50.47 rex: got it...very nice
02.51.01 DocMojo: Bye, Chas!
02.51.06 Codini: I'll make your color black Mo, then you really won't show up
02.51.08 rex: bye chas...thanks again for your nice comments
02.51.14 chas: THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
02.51.32 DocMojo: LOVE YOU TOO, Codini.
02.51.40 DocMojo: You;re wirth every penny.
02.51.47 Codini: Chas, buh bye
02.51.49 chas: Over and Out. PLAY NICE
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02.52.03 Codini: are you drunk again mo?
02.52.08 DocMojo: Oh yeah, sure.."trust us!"
02.52.10 rex: play nice? what did he mean by that???
02.52.15 calyxa: "again"?
02.52.15 DocMojo: Who, me?
02.52.17 calyxa: try "still"
02.52.28 DocMojo: When did I get sober???
02.52.30 rex: oh, caly, you beat me to it...
02.52.32 Codini: thats what I meant
02.52.51 DocMojo: You frighten me.
02.52.53 DocMojo: THE ANTS.
02.53.00 DocMojo: THEY"RE BACK!
02.53.12 rex: ???
02.53.23 Codini: are they fighting in the forest on your back?
02.53.35 DocMojo: Oh, the ants and the elephants always come together, Rex.
02.53.41 DocMojo: You get used to it.
02.53.54 rex: ahhh, the pink ones...i see now...
02.53.57 DocMojo: UNDER MY SKIN, FOOL!
02.54.16 DocMojo: Yep.
02.54.20 DocMojo: DTs.
02.54.25 Codini: rex lift up the shag rug and you'll get to the skin
02.54.37 DocMojo: Just another two-letter acronym.
02.54.49 DocMojo: I'll have nothing to do with it. ;-)
02.55.10 DocMojo: HEY CODINI: you knwo what to do
02.55.13 rex: well if you stay then the DTs never have to come...
02.55.29 DocMojo: Indeed.
02.55.33 Codini: knwo wot?
02.55.50 DocMojo: "Where it's pointless to get high, 'cause it's such a long way down..."
02.56.04 DocMojo: to BITE ME.
02.56.27 Codini: it's not in my contract
02.56.40 Codini: it only says to verbally abuse you
02.56.48 DocMojo: Well, then, what is???
02.57.03 DocMojo: I love these mojoVox sessions.
02.57.15 DocMojo: Just like our conference calls.
02.57.17 Codini: well you've got the PHD YOU figure it out
02.57.27 DocMojo: Only with observers.
02.57.40 DocMojo: People we love and care about.
02.57.40 Codini: and posted on the web
02.57.41 calyxa: time delay observers, even
02.57.41 rex: just asking...what does codini do for pandromeda?
02.57.56 calyxa: probably the same thing I do, "anything I can get away with"
02.57.58 DocMojo: Seeing our dysfunctional fambly in all its glory.
02.58.05 DocMojo: Ain't it grand?
02.58.07 Codini: I am in charge of the care and feeding of Mo's ego
02.58.19 rex: ah, now i understand...
02.58.39 DocMojo: Yeah, Codini is my Special Pal.
02.59.02 Codini: do you need another bitch slap mo?
02.59.06 chris_dickson: what special in "many" ways.......
02.59.17 DocMojo: Please!
02.59.29 rex: whenever you have a group of highly creative people that work closely together this happens...reminds me of some of my rock bands I played in...whew!
02.59.35 DocMojo: Many, many ways. Too many to count.
02.59.50 DocMojo: Yeah, Rex.
02.59.56 DocMojo: I think that's it...
03.00.09 DocMojo: Fetid brain pans EXPLODING with creativity...
03.00.14 Codini: your almost up to your limit Mo
03.00.42 DocMojo: And the standard frustrations and hostinitly that the engenders in cetain persoanilty types.
03.00.57 DocMojo: What limit, Co?
03.01.03 DocMojo: Ever seen me stop?
03.01.15 Codini: Hostinity? is that a new religion?
03.01.15 DocMojo: While I was still upright???
03.01.35 DocMojo: Hotosenility, yes.
03.01.37 rex: how did you guys all meet doc, you mentioned a story earlier.
03.01.42 DocMojo: "It's catching."
03.01.59 DocMojo: Codini, want to field this one?
03.02.14 calyxa: I don't remember meeting him... I know it was in Santa Cruz and I know it was "long ago"... but I'm not part of the Codini / Chas / Legume cabal...
03.02.17 Codini: It was at LAX wasn't it?
03.02.19 DocMojo: That's "hostosenility."
03.02.37 DocMojo: At the curbside, yes...
03.02.44 DocMojo: You had those fishnets on...
03.02.51 rex: caly, did you meet doc thru bryce?
03.02.57 calyxa: no, it was way before that
03.03.15 DocMojo: Rex: It was at teh X Day Convention of the Church of the Subgenius.
03.03.21 Codini: the cabal you speak of is actually a dooms day/flying saucer cult
03.03.24 Codini: thank you
03.03.26 calyxa: thru UCSC, probably... and re-acquainted through a mutual friend
03.03.40 DocMojo: Goto www.subgenius.com, and you'll find it documented...
03.03.46 DocMojo: In living color...
03.04.19 DocMojo: Caly and I met WAAAAY back...
03.04.21 rex: psyche...no joy...
03.04.41 rex: as in the way back machine?
03.04.53 calyxa: mid 80's, I figure
03.05.02 DocMojo: When Yaqui sorcerers and Naghualis ruled the world...
03.05.07 DocMojo: (our world, anyway)
03.05.27 Codini: We lured Mo to X day because we needed a dumbass to humiliate, he was the perfect choice
03.05.38 rex: ouch!
03.05.39 DocMojo: About then, I figure.
03.05.56 DocMojo: Hey, it worked out brilliantly!
03.06.23 DocMojo: They had no idea how inferior they appeared to my PhD-addled brain they appeared...
03.06.31 DocMojo: A good time was had by all!
03.06.40 DocMojo: Then it went downhill...
03.07.13 calyxa: appearing twice, for extra visibility
03.07.22 Codini: The entire Church of the Subgenious laughs at him
03.07.49 DocMojo: As you can see, Rex, a think skin and a self-amusing sense of humor are prerequisites here.
03.07.59 DocMojo: We all think we're funny, and it works for us.
03.08.22 rex: i'm figuring that out...whew!
03.08.22 Codini: are you thinking about skin again? hide the children!!!!
03.08.32 DocMojo: And we're all clueless enough that intended insults roll off like napalm off a duck's back.
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03.08.41 calyxa: hi, MadMac!
03.08.51 rex: hi madmac
03.08.54 Codini: Hola que tel
03.09.01 MadMac420: Hiya, everyone. :)
03.09.04 DocMojo: Hey, MadMac!
03.09.13 chris_dickson: hi Doctor nic
03.09.26 DocMojo: You jumped in at a choice moment.
03.09.39 calyxa: Chris, you can hear my machine from there?
03.09.49 MadMac420: Uh-oh.. Now I'm scared.
03.09.54 calyxa: as well you should be
03.09.56 chris_dickson: in what why??
03.09.58 DocMojo: I was explaining Management Philosophy here at Pandromeda.
03.10.09 calyxa: (read it in the log at http://calyxa.pandromeda.com/ later tonight)
03.10.12 rex: yep, that he was...
03.10.15 DocMojo: "The Force is strong in this one."
03.10.21 calyxa: (hi, everybody! hi, doctor nick!)
03.10.36 chris_dickson: oh ic
03.10.38 DocMojo: You guessed it MadMac--we're deep into mutual abuse.
03.11.03 chris_dickson: i just couldn't help myself
03.11.18 MadMac420: No worries then, that will be a familar environment. ;)
03.11.44 DocMojo: When we started this company, we were determined that this would be FUN.
03.12.18 DocMojo: (Not that mutual flagellation looks all that fun to everyone else, but we amuse ourselves.)
03.12.36 Codini: like a room full of chimps
03.12.38 MadMac420: Let me just get the standard heiny kissing out of the way before I go into lurk mode, you guys have created an amazing program. One I dare say I've been waiting for for a long time.
03.12.40 calyxa: hey, cool, Chas's WCSB thing is on iTunes
03.12.42 rex: whatever floats yur boat...ya know... ;-)
03.12.46 DocMojo: With suitcases
03.13.11 Codini: thanks madmac
03.13.48 rex: i second madmac's comments whole heartedly...or am i too late for heiny time?
03.14.05 calyxa: never too late for heiny time
03.14.15 Codini: your never too late for heiny time ask Mo for a number
03.14.29 rex: good point...being a developer myself I should have remembered that...
03.15.06 rex: mo has 'em lined up huh...wow i guess macworld did go good then!
03.15.38 DocMojo: Thanks, MadMac! We've been working toward this for a long time.
03.15.46 Codini: well...in WAS in San francisco!!!
03.15.57 DocMojo: I presume you run it on a Mac--how is it working for you?
03.16.22 MadMac420: Actually, no.. On a PC. Just happened to be named Mac.
03.16.38 Codini: We won't hold it against you
03.16.45 calyxa: should I not make assumptions about the "420" part of the name, then?
03.16.47 MadMac420: But it has been running flawless.
03.17.08 DocMojo: I see. We still have problems with the Mac, due to the small size of the community. But OS X ROCKS!
03.17.26 DocMojo: That's what we like to hear!!!
03.17.28 MadMac420: *hides head* I was young when I orginally started using the nick online.. and its sort of stuck with me in the art community. :/
03.17.30 Codini: I'm pretty impressed with OS X
03.17.55 calyxa: no need to hide yer head...
03.18.08 rex: "the nick'?
03.18.16 Codini: MadMac, don't worry, Mo's nick is "pansy"
03.18.26 calyxa: Mac's "user id"
03.18.30 rex: ah...nickname...got it.
03.18.32 MadMac420: I've heard good things about OS-X, but have heard criticisms about development on it, so have tended to stear away from it.
03.19.02 DocMojo: Ah, you're a programmer then?
03.19.19 MadMac420: Hobbiest programmer of sorts.
03.19.43 DocMojo: (I can't get Audioactive down here--I want to hear Chas' ravings!)_
03.19.58 chris_dickson: the biggest problem is to get good development tools for the mac....code warrior is a bit of a dog compared MSW
03.20.00 rex: where are you doc...home?
03.20.12 MadMac420: Hope to attempt plug ins for Mojo, once I get beyond the "floating around" stage as a user. :)
03.20.24 DocMojo: Cool--you can write plug-ins for MW's Pro UI when we ge our SDK out 9Real Soon Now).
03.20.41 rex: how long you had mjw mac?
03.20.44 calyxa: all I've heard so far is music... listening w/ iTunes under OS X
03.20.46 DocMojo: Yep, home, Rex.
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03.21.09 calyxa: heya, Legume -- got the goods, thanks
03.21.09 rex: hey legume
03.21.21 DocMojo: Also, our glass tower/Corporate Headquaters.
03.21.27 DocMojo: (Such as it is.)
03.21.33 DocMojo: Hey, "Gume!
03.21.41 MadMac420: Hiya, legume.
03.21.46 legume: no prob, Caly. This is hard, I can't see what's being typed...snow in the window again
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03.22.00 calyxa: bummer!
03.22.00 DocMojo: Gume's seen it. Codini's seen it.
03.22.02 DocMojo: Keep it quiet, guys.
03.22.08 rex: question...for the car animation...did he use pro ui i assume?
03.22.08 calyxa: hey, thosk
03.22.12 thosk: Hi!
03.22.14 rex: hey thosk!
03.22.24 thosk: Hi Rex!
03.22.25 DocMojo: Hey Thosk!
03.22.29 thosk: Hi Doc!
03.22.39 thosk: Thought you weren't going to be here tonight.
03.22.42 calyxa: ya, rex. have you seen my animation tutorial?
03.23.01 DocMojo: Rex: Yes--Bernard's a Pro UI pro. What we used to call a "graph monkey"
03.23.04 rex: no, not yet...still going thru the other ones...
03.23.07 legume: Chas leave? I sent him a bunch of music for his radio show
03.23.11 DocMojo: (when that was the only MW UI).
03.23.25 calyxa: yeah, he left. I've got the show playing on iTunes
03.23.31 rex: ah, that gives him a head up
03.23.33 DocMojo: I decided not to bugger off yet, Thosk.
03.23.40 Codini: Im trying to get Chas's radio show now
03.24.04 rex: legume, chas said he was doing what you sent him for the show
03.24.12 legume: brb reboot
03.24.13 DocMojo: He was psyched about what you sent him 'Gume. Calle dme to tell me about it.
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03.24.37 thosk: So, any eta on the SDK yet?
03.24.44 calyxa: Codini, I got it on iTunes under Radio Tuner, Public, WCSB
03.24.59 Codini: Thanks Caly
03.25.05 rex: oh, thosk, good question...been asked alot tonight!
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03.25.17 DocMojo: Okay, fols, I'm going to have to deprive you of my charming abuse. Sandy is calling me away.
03.25.19 calyxa: word is that Craig is writing it "now"
03.25.19 rex: hey bryce
03.25.21 thosk: (Sorry I'm so late... had to get dinner for the family)
03.25.23 calyxa: hey, Bryce
03.25.31 bryce: hi everyone
03.25.33 calyxa: I tried 'vrml' - does it have to be all upper case or something?
03.25.37 rex: bye doc, thanks for being here...
03.25.40 DocMojo: Thosk: No. But..."soon."
03.25.53 DocMojo: (Only Craig knwos for sure.)
03.26.01 bryce: calyxa do you want to talk in another channel
03.26.15 calyxa: doesn't matter to me...
03.26.16 chris_dickson: he spend a couple of days working on it,.....so soon,...i guess after the headers files etc have been cleanup too
03.26.23 DocMojo: Hey, Bryce! I gotta go.
03.26.47 DocMojo: 'Night y'all!
03.26.52 calyxa: see ya later, Mo!
03.26.58 rex: night doc.
03.27.03 DocMojo: 'Gume, be kind while I'm gone.
03.27.26 DocMojo: (Can't wait to read the log after laying THAT bait...!)
03.27.50 Codini: godd night Mo, donb't fall asleep with the butt plug again!!!
03.28.04 DocMojo: BITE ME.
03.28.09 DocMojo: "Pal."
03.28.11 calyxa: ya, I cut the log off after you leave, Mo
03.28.21 calyxa: (maybe not this time, tho)
03.28.40 DocMojo: Fine, Caly.
03.29.02 Codini: Leave it on the search engines will love it
03.29.03 DocMojo: Rex, I'll pay well to hear what they say after I'm gone.
03.29.15 DocMojo: Bye, y'all!
03.29.20 Codini: Rex, don't believe him
03.29.24 MadMac420: Take care, Doc.
03.29.26 rex: no prob, doc...i'm recording it too, always do...
03.29.37 calyxa: ya, dunno the last time any of us got paid...
03.29.43 DocMojo: GOOD.
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03.30.08 Codini: sweet chihuahua dreams mo
03.30.46 Codini: Caly, have you heard Chas yet?
03.31.14 chris_dickson: it's gone all very quiet :P
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03.31.34 rex: no one to abuse.... ;-)
03.31.40 calyxa: no, just music (discussing VRML stuff w/ bryce in the other channel...)
03.31.42 Codini: hey gume
03.31.49 legume: hey codini
03.31.53 rex: wb gume
03.31.58 Codini: Mo chickened out
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03.32.14 legume: I hate this snow crap. How can I fix it?
03.32.37 calyxa: no idea... no-one's ever gotten back to me on it.
03.32.49 calyxa: Chris! what's up with the snow crap in 'vox??
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03.33.21 rex: wb bryce
03.33.23 chris_dickson: what snow crap
03.33.26 bryce: hello
03.33.41 calyxa: hang on while I dig up the bug number... Legume can't see text in 'vox.
03.33.59 chris_dickson: because he's special
03.34.05 legume: I'm getting nothing but snow in my chat windows. I have to use my cursor to select the text so I can read it
03.34.10 calyxa: 1403, there's also a screenshot in the tester area
03.34.44 rex: anybody know why gunther never shows on these chats? is time bad for him?
03.34.46 chris_dickson: well,....it's not i check or get assign vox bug,....hang on
03.35.29 calyxa: yeah, it's like 3am for him
03.35.39 bryce: MadMac420 are you a beta tester
03.36.08 rex: damn...i would love to talk with him more about what he's doing...he;s got some nice stuff going...
03.36.10 bryce: what is the time where you are ruth
03.36.24 calyxa: 7:30 pm.
03.36.33 calyxa: three hours ahead yesterday
03.36.43 calyxa: it's three hours ago tomorrow where you are
03.36.44 chris_dickson: legume,...what's your screen settings, colour depth, 16 32 bit
03.36.47 bryce: thats a good time
03.36.58 rex: 10:30 pm here in atlanta
03.37.00 calyxa: it's still thursday here
03.37.23 rex: it's friday in nz already?
03.37.26 calyxa: yup
03.37.28 bryce: yep
03.37.34 calyxa: has been all day ;)
03.37.37 bryce: we get every thing first
03.37.39 legume: 32bit 1024x768 Nvidea geforce 64 meg card
03.37.46 rex: wow...don't know how you folks keep it straight...
03.38.05 calyxa: I keep my PC on NZ time, and my Mac on Pacific time...
03.38.09 bryce: really wet in dunedin at the moment
03.38.13 rex: caly: all day...i like that...
03.38.21 calyxa: heheh
03.38.31 chris_dickson: mmm,...which version of vox
03.38.37 rex: what time friday is it in nz?
03.38.40 calyxa: it was wet there 6 months ago, too. but that was a cold wet.
03.38.45 calyxa: 4:30pm
03.38.47 bryce: 4:30pm
03.38.50 bryce: hey
03.39.08 bryce: i was suppsoed to answer that!
03.39.21 legume: Hey, I can read it now
03.39.28 legume: I set my colors to 256
03.39.38 chris_dickson: i haven't seen that one before,...see you are special legume :P
03.39.48 Codini: yah
03.39.52 calyxa: I hear voices, but it isn't Chas (ah, there he is!)
03.39.58 legume: I can see it in 16bit color as well
03.40.00 rex: what were your colors at legume?
03.40.26 chris_dickson: what's the monitor set at,....Hz etc
03.41.05 legume: don't know the Hz
03.41.22 thosk: I am away.
03.41.27 legume: My colors were at 32 bit, and I couldn't read the chat window
03.41.42 legume: I set it to 16 and can read it
03.41.43 calyxa: Settings, Advanced, Monitor
03.41.52 calyxa: "refresh frequency"
03.42.02 bryce: did anyone try the mac terrain export fix?
03.42.08 Codini: Intersteller overdrive
03.42.18 calyxa: it timed out already... I didn't try it, but Gunther did.
03.42.32 bryce: thats cool
03.42.35 legume: doesn't say, ruth, just says "plug and play monitor
03.43.04 rex: ah, the joy of windoze...
03.43.26 chris_dickson: below that,...there is a list box
03.43.29 bryce: I've been forced to work on a mac lately
03.43.35 calyxa: no 'Advanced' tab on the display properties dialog?
03.43.45 Codini: I remember before windoze when all we had was a rock and a stick...
03.43.53 calyxa: advanced _button_... sorry
03.44.18 Codini: and we had to walk 5 miles through the snow to use THAT
03.44.27 bryce: codini they must have been fine times
03.44.35 legume: yes, ruth, but under 'monitor' it doesn't give that info
03.44.37 rex: i remember running windoze 1.0 for the first time...but now i'm dating myself...
03.44.42 Codini: Well, Hell yeah! they were
03.44.52 calyxa: what about under Adapter?
03.45.03 calyxa: I've got a "list all modes" that shows Hz...
03.45.11 Codini: Those were the good old days
03.45.26 chris_dickson: does this also happen in MojoWorld??
03.45.47 calyxa: I think if it did, Chris, we'd have heard about it a lot sooner
03.46.03 legume: under 'refresh rate' it says 'optimal'
03.46.09 calyxa: oog.
03.46.16 Codini: rocks and sticks...they never"crash"
03.46.30 chris_dickson: what kindof monitor do u have?
03.46.32 legume: thogh it has several option to which I can change it.
03.46.42 legume: I have an emachines 17 inch
03.46.44 calyxa: what kind of options?
03.46.46 thosk: Rocks and sticks don't run mojoworld, either.
03.46.58 chris_dickson: does the monitor have a driver disk?
03.47.07 Codini: HA!!! that's what you think!
03.47.11 chris_dickson: the plug and play monitor is pretty crappy
03.47.21 legume: 60, 72, 75, 85 hz are the options
03.47.34 chris_dickson: as it limits the refresh rate and resolution u can run it at
03.47.50 calyxa: I saw Charles Fleischer on stage w/ Kai Krause at a Mac World ages ago... he was talking about computer art and whether or not that is art... he quoted a caveman, upon being presented with a brush -- "Brush not make art! Art is Hand and Rock!"
03.47.59 Codini: Hell, in my day we didn't need a fancy pants computer program to build planets...
03.48.12 rex: well, folks, i need to run...got an early meeting...
03.48.14 Codini: we just went right out and built 'em!
03.48.22 calyxa: thanks for stopping by, rex!
03.48.26 thosk: heh heh
03.48.32 bryce: bye bye
03.48.52 rex: enjoyed it...see ya next week!
03.49.03 Codini: don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out
03.49.32 bryce: http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10042-601-8063495.html?tag=st.dl.10000-103-1.lst.uo
03.49.41 rex: boy...codini's in a mood today...isn't he... ;-)
03.49.44 bryce: some of those comments hurt a bit
03.49.52 rex: night all
03.49.58 bryce: bye rex
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03.50.14 Codini: which ones Bryce?
03.50.18 legume: wow, 50/50!
03.50.24 bryce: negative
03.50.41 bryce: spyware whats that about
03.50.43 Codini: those are all plants by Mo!
03.51.11 bryce: did mo post the good ones
03.51.14 legume: That's sad, Mo put in all the positive reviews himself
03.51.32 Codini: I'll bet the sneaky bastard is posting all od them
03.51.36 bryce: did he?
03.52.14 Codini: Sure he's desparate he'll stoop to anything
03.52.44 legume: OK, now I'm weirded out. I reset my display settings back to their original "can't see crap" state and I can still read the text.
03.52.48 bryce: fare enough with all those crap comments
03.53.16 thosk: Legume, what OS are you running?
03.53.23 legume: win 98 se
03.53.40 Codini: If there is one thing I have learned about mo it's that you can't trust him any further than you can throw him
03.54.07 thosk: I'm no expert on win9x, but I do know that video driver bugs can weird out individual fonts... which sounds more like what you are running into than a video refresh rate.
03.54.15 legume: Oh, yeah, he's a PERVERT, too. Likes farm animals, I hear
03.54.23 thosk: By switching modes back and forth, you got it to reset.
03.54.29 thosk: I've seen it happen "frequently"
03.54.49 Codini: He's got a real particular interest in little lambs
03.54.55 legume: So cool, I can turn my lights out with my PC
03.55.13 bryce: heffe was the only person with negative comment to leave there email address
03.55.26 calyxa: little lambs!
03.55.40 calyxa: (fond postcard memories... sigh)
03.55.54 Codini: I'm telling you Bryce, it's all Mo
03.56.03 legume: hehehehe, I still have that postcard taped to my cabinet
03.56.06 bryce: little lambs?
03.56.27 Codini: The guy is nuts... nuts I tell you
03.56.34 calyxa: I sent Legume the 'Lambs and Daffodils' postcard when I was down there 6 months ago
03.56.37 legume: I heard he spent time in prison
03.57.05 legume: He shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.
03.57.12 Codini: not only did he spend time in prison... but he actually enjoyed it!!!!
03.57.30 bryce: hey thats cool!
03.57.57 bryce: how many years in prison was he?
03.58.22 Codini: He did six years
03.58.26 legume: I think he was in for twenty years back in the 40s
03.58.48 Codini: on which charge?
03.59.00 Codini: he's been in a couple of times
03.59.14 legume: That was when he cut that little boy's arms and legs off
03.59.18 bryce: did he just go to prison for fun
03.59.52 legume: "Back in the cell, he called himself Lil, but everyone knew him as Nancy"
04.00.03 Codini: well, I don'r know if originally it was for fun, but I heard he REALLY enjoyed himself inside
04.00.40 bryce: I was thinking of join the NZ army just to get kicked out
04.00.42 legume: He has a big swastika tattooed on his chest
04.01.05 calyxa: well, at least you got to be a dead soldier in some army, Bryce
04.01.15 Codini: and a set of eyeballs tattooed on the back of his neck
04.01.31 calyxa: I am still logging all this, hehehehe
04.01.40 Codini: to keep an eye on his boyfriends
04.01.44 bryce: Watch out for me in the last lord of the rings
04.01.53 thosk: So how much of this should I be taking seriously?
04.02.01 MadMac420: hehe, I'm sure he'll enjoy reading it.
04.02.27 calyxa: hmm, they're saying Chas will be up "any minute now" but I thought I'd already heard him?
04.02.29 Codini: well. how much do you want to take seriously?
04.02.50 legume: I hear he plagiarized the whole MojoWorld program and killed the guy who really created it.
04.02.53 thosk: Only the true stuff. (Thought it doesn't matter much what that is.)
04.03.57 legume: Chas played my first musical composition on his show last week, and compared it to Stravinsky
04.04.30 legume: This sux, I'm torn between chatting, listening to Chas, and WWF Smackdown
04.04.35 Codini: Hey thats my re mix!!
04.04.37 calyxa: this must be the Swamp just starting
04.05.00 calyxa: I've got WCBS on iTunes, so listening and chatting go together quite well
04.05.24 legume: Lately I've been sending Chas a TON o'stuff for the show, mostly rare and obscure country/folk
04.05.40 calyxa: he said he was gonna play a bunch of what you sent him tonite
04.05.50 calyxa: I'm looking forward to the Pickin' on Zeppelin
04.06.17 legume: The ickin' on Zeppelin stuff is fantastic
04.06.28 legume: pickin', that is
04.06.40 calyxa: I pointed Mo at 'Pickin on Pink Floyd' - haven't heard it myself, but it got rave reviews
04.07.06 calyxa: I've got the Austin Lounge Lizards' cover of Brain Damage...
04.07.08 chris_dickson: i'm off see u guy's later
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04.07.44 legume: he's playing Codini's remix of my Hellhole 326
04.07.56 calyxa: Chihuahua
04.08.41 bryce: I am away.
04.08.50 legume: any of you Mojonauts listening to wcsb?
04.08.52 Codini: HA HA HA HA
04.09.02 calyxa: Codini mix of the Legume release!
04.10.26 thosk: Just tuned in.
04.10.49 calyxa: what's that path again?
04.11.59 calyxa: audio demerol
04.12.02 legume: program files/Icq/downloaded files/Legume
04.12.17 calyxa: just pokin' fun at Chas...
04.12.40 Codini: Damn legumes show tonight
04.12.47 calyxa: he's gonna call you up, man
04.12.49 Codini: Wooo Hoooo!!!
04.13.36 thosk: Woo Hoo!
04.13.52 Codini: we are still here
04.13.54 legume: look at me, I'm multitasking
04.14.27 legume: Walter Brennan, "Life Gets Teejus, Don't It?"
04.14.55 Codini: damn fine stuff
04.15.13 legume: I sent him a wild mix of stuff
04.15.35 legume: including King Sunny Ade and the African Beats
04.16.28 calyxa: I think I've even heard of them.
04.17.33 Codini: I've got his one
04.17.39 thosk: This is great!
04.18.27 calyxa: brb...
04.21.21 legume: That's Jerry Garcia playing "sun"
04.21.29 legume: from the Pizza tapes
04.22.10 calyxa: oh, Jerry! cool
04.22.30 Codini: graet stuff
04.22.32 calyxa: gonna kill that log now...